80g Shallow

Tamberav

Active member
I'm confused... The owner keeps referring to the Earmuff Wrasse as a Leopard. But isn't it Halichoeres xanti? Most Leopards belong to the Macropharyngodon genus...
Yes, you are right it is not a leopard. I am assuming he is using that as an example or just clumping them together as to why they don't have sand because they are both sand sleepers.... or maybe he thinks its in the leopard family ;d
 
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Humblefish

Dr. Fish
Yes, you are right it is not a leopard. I am assuming he is using that as an example or just clumping them together as to why they don't have sand because they are both sand sleepers.... or maybe he thinks its in the leopard family ;d
Still a tough wrasse to get through QT. That one and H. iridis are two I've never been successful with. Until just recently I had never gotten a Moyeri Leopard Wrasse thru QT either. Feeding calanus seems to be helping with the sensitive wrasses & anthias.
 

Tamberav

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Still a tough wrasse to get through QT. That one and H. iridis are two I've never been successful with. Until just recently I had never gotten a Moyeri Leopard Wrasse thru QT either. Feeding calanus seems to be helping with the sensitive wrasses & anthias.
The earmuff is tough you mean or you mean leopards? I could not find much info on the earmuff.
 

Tamberav

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Well I brought her home, she was at least swimming upright today but still looked scared, she picked at some live black worms so we will see. I also saw just the nicest lubbocks so that came home with me too. The earmuff dove right into the sand when I got her home.... I imagine if this fish can feel shock and surprise and relief... that is what she felt when she saw the sand bed after being without it so long. I know I get crabby if I don't have a blanket to sleep with.

So I went for some frozen fish food, ended up with two impulse purchases.
 

Humblefish

Dr. Fish
The earmuff is tough you mean or you mean leopards? I could not find much info on the earmuff.
H. xanti and H. iridis are tough to QT IME. Even with sand in the tank.

Leopards have been really hit or miss lately. For the longest time I was able to QT Ornates & Blue Stars successfully. Now, I can't even get Ornates, and I've lost 2 Blue Stars in a row. However, I'm having better success with Meleagris and Moyeri Leopards lately. :confused:
 

Tamberav

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H. xanti and H. iridis are tough to QT IME. Even with sand in the tank.

Leopards have been really hit or miss lately. For the longest time I was able to QT Ornates & Blue Stars successfully. Now, I can't even get Ornates, and I've lost 2 Blue Stars in a row. However, I'm having better success with Meleagris and Moyeri Leopards lately. :confused:
Well hopefully this goes okay since she has been hanging on this long. Fingers crossed.

I got two bluestar leopards through just a conditioning tank with prazi and general cure given orally and one is still with me. She is very hardy now and a quite a bossy little ****.

Are you losing them to stress? Or are they just coming in rough shape?
 

Humblefish

Dr. Fish
Are you losing them to stress? Or are they just coming in rough shape?
Some come in half dead (they don't ship well). A Methylene Blue bath will sometimes help them recover from shipping stress. Leopards also benefit from a week or two in non-medicated water, to get them eating before being exposed to copper.
 

Tamberav

Active member
Both were out today and ate LRS. The Lubbock's went back into hiding but the earmuff was out looking for pods so I got a few pics.

I don't clean the walls of my conditioning tank often sorry ... The pods really like that I don't.

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clsanchez77

20 Year Noob
His mother was half Australian Shepherd and half Border Collie and the dad was half German Shepard and half Rough Collie so he is 25 percent of each of those.
I am glad you clarified that. I was looking at that dog a bit confused as I dont think I can recall seeing a mixed Aussie Shepherd. I did not see any German in him until you mentioned it. But I picked up on the Aussie and Collie right away. My wife wants an Australian Shepherd, but our boys fell in love with a litter of Golden Retrievers so we have one of those right now. Now that he is calming down (abut 2 years old), we may consider a second dog.
 

clsanchez77

20 Year Noob
I feel like this fish might be dying a slow death from just from stress and not disease which is unfortunate.
Very common sadly. Too many stores hire staff that have no idea what they are doing and/or the store is not willing to front the money to care a fish he may have already written off in his/her mind.
 

Tamberav

Active member
I am glad you clarified that. I was looking at that dog a bit confused as I dont think I can recall seeing a mixed Aussie Shepherd. I did not see any German in him until you mentioned it. But I picked up on the Aussie and Collie right away. My wife wants an Australian Shepherd, but our boys fell in love with a litter of Golden Retrievers so we have one of those right now. Now that he is calming down (abut 2 years old), we may consider a second dog.
I had two Golden's before this one. Lovely dogs!
 

Tamberav

Active member
If you can save those two, I need to hire you! Those are two wrasses I've had difficulty quarantining.
Ha..well I will keep you posted. I assumed a Lubbock's would be easy...I see them all the time at the LFS. So far my luck with wrasse has been good so hoping it doesn't fail me!

Firefish are my bane...I gave up on helfrichi... It wasn't so much QT them but they love to find new ways to commit suicide. I lost one when it went through 1/4 inch netting and became a $100 french fry and I lost one to a spinal injury when it spooked and crashed into the rim on my lid. Then I lost one when the power went out and it freaked and dove head first into my bubble tip. For me... firefish need a tank with padded walls. I kept them in my macro tank with small gobies and some dither fish but they still just spazz if something unexpected happens.

If I try again I am getting a red one so it's a $10 french fry.
 
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Tamberav

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I got some stuff to skin the stand and started it a bit but work today. Hopefully that will be done in the next few days then I can start working on plumbing in my macro tank to this and fill the sump up to start.

Wrasses in conditioning tank this morning:

 

Tamberav

Active member
I believe the earmuff came with some mild mouth damage...I wasn't sure at the store...it just seemed a little swollen but once I got her in better light and was able to stare at my other wrasses mouths and then hers to compare I am sure there is some damage. I guess from being in a bare bottom tank or maybe shipping.

I was worried as she didn't come out for awhile but was up this morning and eating. She is a bit picky about foods though. Not sure if that is normal for this type of wrasse or if she is picky because of her mouth. She eats ova well. I will pick up some live black worms on Tues.

She is skinnier than I would like so trying to feed frequently whenever she is awake.

Lubbock's is eating good. Nothing to report.

No signs of disease so far.
 
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