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Tony Thompson

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Thank You...

You are most likely right. I wonder how these work without batteries.

Those are specialist devices that I would assume would require specific medical couriers.
 

Tony Thompson

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@Dierks , do you not have to use licenced livestock couriers in the USA. ?

In the UK and parts of Europe, you can only send livestock by a licenced livestock courier, with particular specification on packaging and by delivery before noon next day. It gets pretty cold here too in the winter. When the temperature drops to low or when delays in transport are envisaged, couriers refuse to ship livestock due to animal welfare concerns.
 

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Okay guys I will call this off since I think Tony is correct, I probably cant even ship them even if I wanted to create one... Ugh... I guess I just wont be able to ship in the cold months.
Maybe reach out to Adam at battlecorals? I've gotten stuff from him in the cold; he had me pick up at Fedex at the airport.
 

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@Dierks , do you not have to use licenced livestock couriers in the USA. ?

In the UK and parts of Europe, you can only send livestock by a licenced livestock courier, with particular specification on packaging and by delivery before noon next day. It gets pretty cold here too in the winter. When the temperature drops to low or when delays in transport are envisaged, couriers refuse to ship livestock due to animal welfare concerns.
We don’t have the same in the USA. Most live animals are shipped overnight express via fedex. It’s up to the sellers to use good judgement.
 

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It would be worth it to talk to someone at FedEx or UPS to get confirmation before giving up IMO. The Cold Chain box had a FedEx label on it in the advertising materials. Possibly they had to jump through some hoops?
 

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Slight hijack here, but with the heat packs do you put a couple of holes in the cooler lid and tape the heat pack over them? I've seen it suggested but NONE of my online livestock purchases have arrived with that setup. I did a number of coral shipments earlier this year and experimented a little - then asked the recipients for feedback. I only got a few reliable responses but it seemed that the packages with holes in the lids stayed warm better.
 

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heat packs do you put a couple of holes in the cooler lid and tape the heat pack over them?
Yes I do, the biggest issue that I come across is the temps are down below freezing so I am losing heat faster than the Heat pack can generate. I am experimenting on a bunch of different configurations to see if it makes a difference on hole sizes, also if there is a hole in the top to let air into the box top.
 

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Wonder if you could use the piezoelectric effect somehow converting the movement of the package into heat? Could be a cost effective way to achieve this.
 
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