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I don't understand how we have made not spreading the disease into a culture war issue.

I don't get the argument that brings constitutional rights into the debate. It should be straight forward we needed to stop the spread of the virus... not slow it... stop it. We as Americans are in for a lot worse because we have somehow politicized the issue, when clearly it has been a public health issue all along.
 

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I am seeing lots of posts of just craziness... One was a lady throwing food/raw meat on the floor in a store because she didn't want to wear a mask.

She said she can't wear one because she has a breathing problem but was screaming and carrying on and clearly was lying and then started cursing out Democrats.

I don't like how mask vs not mask is a political thing.
 
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I don't get the argument that brings constitutional rights into the debate. It should be straight forward we needed to stop the spread of the virus... not slow it... stop it. We as Americans are in for a lot worse because we have somehow politicized the issue, when clearly it has been a public health issue all along.
I'm not against mandatory masks, but some of the other things are unsettling because of the precedent it sets. For example, when a state like Florida sets up "checkpoints" at the state line or when New York imposes quarantine restrictions (with civil/criminal penalties) for out-of-state travelers. These measures are blatant violations of the US Constitution, by restricting “right to travel”: https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-14/section-1/the-right-to-travel

And while one may argue some infringements are necessary during these unprecedented times, once you allow the govt. to "bend the law" they will expect to be able to do it again for other (less important) reasons.
 
I'm not against mandatory masks, but some of the other things are unsettling because of the precedent it sets. For example, when a state like Florida sets up "checkpoints" at the state line or when New York imposes quarantine restrictions (with civil/criminal penalties) for out-of-state travelers. These measures are blatant violations of the US Constitution, by restricting “right to travel”: https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-14/section-1/the-right-to-travel

And while one may argue some infringements are necessary during these unprecedented times, once you allow the govt. to "bend the law" they will expect to be able to do it again for other (less important) reasons.
I am down with the travel restrictions, I’m curious if you see the checkpoints coming in to California as a violation? They don’t allow fruit (and some other plant life) in efforts to mitigate any insects that could destroy crops. States are trying to mitigate destruction of people.

Yes, I am a mask wearer in public. My husband goes to work every day (local news producer) and they wear masks at the the station. My almost 80 year old mom (you‘d assume she was a decade younger if you met her) runs her own errands (my filling in lasted about a month) with her mask and LOTS of hand sanitizer. It is simply about respecting the people around you and making every effort to not kill or disable them, as far as I’m concerned.
 

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I am down with the travel restrictions, I’m curious if you see the checkpoints coming in to California as a violation? They don’t allow fruit (and some other plant life) in efforts to mitigate any insects that could destroy crops. States are trying to mitigate destruction of people.
Does California stop every single vehicle that enters the state (via the Interstate)? Because that is what Florida was doing until just recently. I am not in favor of police stopping, questioning and searching citizens without probable cause.
 

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Does California stop every single vehicle that enters the state (via the Interstate)? Because that is what Florida was doing until just recently. I am not in favor of police stopping, questioning and searching citizens without probable cause.
Sometimes they stop you sometimes they don't but more often than not they wave you past. They're more interested in commercial trucks etc. If they stop you they just ask if you have any produce or plants. If they want to search the vehicle you can refuse but the vehicle can't enter California until it is inspected.
 

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Sometimes they stop you sometimes they don't but more often than not they wave you past. They're more interested in commercial trucks etc. If they stop you they just ask if you have any produce or plants. If they want to search the vehicle you can refuse but the vehicle can't enter California until it is inspected.
And this is every single truck that enters the state?? I understand they don't search them all but ......
 
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