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Jessican

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14 days is already our "shortcut" to a shorter QT period.
Well, not entirely. Per the Bacterial Infection Predicament thread:

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Huge disclaimer, of course, that shortening it further than 14 days is only going to work if you did everything absolutely perfectly, and it leaves no room for error. It is a risky choice for sure. But if given the choice between losing the fish to a power outage and taking that risk, I’d take the risk. I’d just probably do a peroxide bath in between tanks and then I’d be watching like a hawk for any signs of disease.
 

Dierks

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Huge disclaimer, of course, that shortening it further than 14 days is only going to work if you did everything absolutely perfectly, and it leaves no room for error. It is a risky choice for sure. But if given the choice between losing the fish to a power outage and taking that risk, I’d take the risk. I’d just probably do a peroxide bath in between tanks and then I’d be watching like a hawk for any signs of disease.
THIS ^^^^

I personally would never cut it this close and take the risk. Plus, @Humblefish would not be trilled with me if I posted what you just did. So I like to stay on the safe side and the good side. @Jessican lives for danger and she is convinced that you can just kill whatever with Hydrogen Peroxide even if it makes it in your tank. To me, I dont even want anything near my tank in the first place. I dont do all the UV or the H2O2 dosing or any of the other stuff so to expect someone else to do it is not in my train of thought! But she is technically right, your call what you want to do.
 

Jessican

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@Jessican lives for danger and she is convinced that you can just kill whatever with Hydrogen Peroxide even if it makes it in your tank.
I mean you’re not wrong 😂 I’m all aboard the peroxide train these days. And I have far better survival rates with my current methods than I ever had with QT, so the QT option is the more dangerous one for me :p I still advocate for QT for most people, though, because I am aware that I might just be getting lucky over here and just because I’m willing to take those risks doesn’t meant that I try to convince other people to do so!

The only reason I’m even throwing this out there is because it sounds like it could be a life or death decision. @Tangreefer please understand that you are taking a risk if you go this route, and only do it if you absolutely have to.
 

Tangreefer

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THIS ^^^^

I personally would never cut it this close and take the risk. Plus, @Humblefish would not be trilled with me if I posted what you just did. So I like to stay on the safe side and the good side. @Jessican lives for danger and she is convinced vm that you can just kill whatever with Hydrogen Peroxide even if it makes it in your tank. To me, I dont even want anything near my tank in the first place. I dont do all the UV or the H2O2 dosing or any of the other stuff so to expect someone else to do it is not in my train of thought! But she is technically right, your call what you want to do.
I understand I did an aggressive QT like humble talked about in the interview on reef dude. said usually 1 week and the extra 7 days are for security.
 

Humblefish

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The 5 day treatment period for velvet and 8 days for Ich is only to be used during an emergency situation where a fish has a serious bacterial infection and needs to be transferred out of copper (or chloroquine) ASAP. After the infection clears, I would retreat with copper/chloroquine or at the very least do a 30 day observation using black mollies:

 

Tangreefer

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The 5 day treatment period for velvet and 8 days for Ich is only to be used during an emergency situation where a fish has a serious bacterial infection and needs to be transferred out of copper (or chloroquine) ASAP. After the infection clears, I would retreat with copper/chloroquine or at the very least do a 30 day observation using black mollies:

thank you for clearing this up. Hopefully I won’t have to transfer them it’s only 2 more days and would hate to ruin it for 2 days
 

Tangreefer

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The 5 day treatment period for velvet and 8 days for Ich is only to be used during an emergency situation where a fish has a serious bacterial infection and needs to be transferred out of copper (or chloroquine) ASAP. After the infection clears, I would retreat with copper/chloroquine or at the very least do a 30 day observation using black mollies:

I started bring up the salinity up in the 40g tank. I also dosed GC how long do I have to wait to continue bringing up the salinity through water changes. Thx
 

Tangreefer

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The 5 day treatment period for velvet and 8 days for Ich is only to be used during an emergency situation where a fish has a serious bacterial infection and needs to be transferred out of copper (or chloroquine) ASAP. After the infection clears, I would retreat with copper/chloroquine or at the very least do a 30 day observation using black mollies:

How long does GC last in the water?
 

Tangreefer

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If you are worried about diluting the GC with water changes just don’t do any water changes for 24 hours after dosing. After that you are fine. (y)
My clowns have been in hypo for almost 6 weeks and have been through GC. They are not showing any signs of sickness. So if they had velvet would it have shown by now?
 

Humblefish

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My clowns have been in hypo for almost 6 weeks and have been through GC. They are not showing any signs of sickness. So if they had velvet would it have shown by now?
The problem is hypo will sometimes suppress symptoms of velvet, brook, etc. So you probably wouldn't notice signs of these until you raise the salinity back up.
 

Humblefish

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Salinity is at 1.017 at the moment and rising. I will run them through copper just to be sure
The other option is to use some black mollies as canary fish for disease detection:
 
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