Electric blue acara

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I know this forum is for saltwater fish but no one anywhere else has been able to tell me what's wrong with this acara so here I am.
I got it about 6 months ago and it looked like a normal EBA nothing special. Did my usual basic 3 week quarantine (salt+observation, meds as needed) and he came out fine and went in the display.
Over the next about month, it started slowly turning white like this. Acts normal and eats the whole time.

This is how it looks now

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It's never improved since then. Also has not grown and it's belly has stayed sunken in even though it eats a ton.
I took it out and had it in the quarantine for about 4 months. Over the 4 months, I treated it (not necessarily at the same time but just at different intervals) with the following...
- Salt, going up as high as 1.003sg at one point
- Metroplex dosing for about 2 weeks
- Prazipro, tank dosing for 2 weeks, then mixing it in with food for about 2 weeks after that. Was seeing normal poops. I still am thinking it's internal parasites, just must not be any 'normal' kind... And I know the way I was doing it was right, I assume, because i was treating my goldfish in another tank the same way and it successfully dewormed her.
- Seachem stress guard, basically every few days on and off
- Isolation, to rule out that it's just being picked on. 4 months in isolation you'd think it would improve not get worse if it were an injury.
- Fresh clean water... Switched it to remineralized rodi water to rule out any form of contaminates
- High quality foods with vitamins. It eats like a pig and poops normally.


I'd also like to note that it was in a tank full of other fragile and/or very expensive cichlids none of which have any issue like this. The acara is the only one. So it's not spreading as far as I know. And I always quarantine all my fish.

So what should I do? 🤔 Is there a different parasite treatment I should try? Am I just blind and missing something obvious? I'm more of a saltwater person, so freshwater diseases still stump me. Plus whenever you google anything about freshwater fish all that comes up is ich, lol!
 

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What kind of foods have you been feeding it?
I mix it up every day it's some combo of these. I also add selcon now and then.

Frozen - Omega brine, regular brine, pe mysis, hikari spirulina mysis, LRS herbivore frenzy, jumbo bloodworms, krill

Pellet - Omega one cichlid, new life spectrum cichlid, hikari super red (it's in my mix for my blood parrots), pe mysis pellets, bug bites

Live - blackworms , brine shrimp
 

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Food mix is excellent. They love live critters.

Do you know if it was "wild caught" color variant or aquacultured?
 
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Ha! Really dating myself. Back in the day, you could order "wild caught" with color, shape variations for breeding purposes. Used to do this mostly with African Cichlids: blues, yellows, convicts, and Discus, etc.

Well, it's troubling when a fish is "losing color" like this one. Can be a genetic thing, or something more sinister like TB in an early stage. If it was my fish, I'd quarantine the fish. If it is TB it's transmitted by fish eating fish poop. Other symptoms are listlessness, and later "pale" lesions on the skin. There is no cure. :(
 

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Ha! Really dating myself. Back in the day, you could order "wild caught" with color, shape variations for breeding purposes. Used to do this mostly with African Cichlids: blues, yellows, convicts, and Discus, etc.

Well, it's troubling when a fish is "losing color" like this one. Can be a genetic thing, or something more sinister like TB in an early stage. If it was my fish, I'd quarantine the fish. If it is TB it's transmitted by fish eating fish poop. Other symptoms are listlessness, and later "pale" lesions on the skin. There is no cure. :(

If it's TB, should I just consider humanely euthanizing...? I don't have a permanent setup I can leave it in and I would feel bad giving it to a store and ruining all their stock, lol
 

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Well in case anyone cares or needs to reference this thread someday.

I had a vet biopsy one of the bodies of my dead fish and he did confirm it's tuberculosis. So that's really fun. Guess I'm done with freshwater.
This is going to sound dumb, but if it's something you really want, don't give up on it. I will admit tuberculosis as 💩ty luck as you can get, but we have all been there in some sort at some point. Keep trucking.
 

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This is going to sound dumb, but if it's something you really want, don't give up on it. I will admit tuberculosis as 💩ty luck as you can get, but we have all been there in some sort at some point. Keep trucking.
There's no point really. The only reason I have these fish is because they're my 'pet fish'. I had most of them for almost 8 years. But they're all dead now except for a few. And I don't care to get new ones.
I'll just wait for them to die I guess. They seem healthy enough for now. I can treat symptoms. I'd feel bad euthanizing them as long as they're acting normal, most of the ones left must just be carriers.
He told me it shouldn't affect saltwater at least, so there's that. And it's been a long time and I haven't gotten it so that's good.
I'll feel bad for anyone else who buys fish from that store though. 100% sure I got it from them. I sent them a message about it letting them know but I'm guessing they won't care. One of the most popular shops in the state tho 😬
 

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I guess I never mentioned what was even going on.
Ever since I got that acara all of my fish started having weird symptoms and dying randomly out of the blue. My freezer is full of dead fish.
Including my $200 flowerhorn parrot cichlid hybrids.
Ill loose probably close to 800$ worth of fish to this.
 
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