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phatduckk

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Hi folks,

It kinda feels silly even thinking about this during the current stuff going on but hobbies are probably one of the few things helping me keep sane :)

So my tank currently has 4 small fish in it and I I'd like to add a few more soon (with QT soon is about a month or so away). Here's the vitals:
  • Tank: 4ft long (kinda shallow so display is like 75g)
  • Goal: Mixed reef (coral, snails, shrimp, urchin etc)
  • Current fish: 2 clownfish & 1 royal gramma from @Dr.Reef - one blotches anthias from @baybridgeaquarium
  • On the way: 1 rhomboid wrasse from my VIP dealer @Dr.Reef (honestly an awesome dude)
Here's the fish I've been considering. Some of my "ideal" combinations (as far as looks etc) won't work out well in terms of territory & aggression. So - suggest some fish to me.

My goal is to have a colorful & relatively peaceful tank w/ a bonus if a few of the fish can help w/ algae control

Fish I'm considering:
  • tailspot blenny
  • lawnmower blenny
  • white tail tang (would hate the blennies)
  • gem/yellow/purple tang (tank size is borderline)
  • pink streaked wrasse
  • yellow wrasse
  • Dracula goby (or some goby w/ a shrimp pair)
  • Bella goby
  • the schooling bannerfish @Dierks has (again, is tank big enough? width is fine but short on gallons)
  • flame hawk or long nose hawk
  • some butterfly fish (reef safety is an issue)
  • Bellus angel
  • Watanabe angel
  • flame angel (maybe not reef safe enough)
  • Bluespot jawfish
  • swiss guard
  • mandarin (way later when I can actually see a healthy pod population)
  • helfrichi firefish
So its a huge list - I'm open to any other suggestions. For some reason i'm hell bent on a tang but maybe I need to get over that...

I have 1/2 the mind to try and QT one or two myself but my preference is to work the vendors here. I also have given thought to acclimating a couple mollies as part of my algae control crew.

I dunno - this is all a ramble. I pretty much need a reef tank interior decorator as i'm too undeceive. send help :p
 

mattzang

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halichoeres chrysus is an awesome fish, totally peaceful and helps with coral pests. can't beat the bright yellow too

what kind of corals do you have/want? if you're into zoas, acans, meaty LPS, stuff like that you might want to avoid the reef safe with caution type fish
 

phatduckk

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halichoeres chrysus is an awesome fish, totally peaceful and helps with coral pests. can't beat the bright yellow too

what kind of corals do you have/want? if you're into zoas, acans, meaty LPS, stuff like that you might want to avoid the reef safe with caution type fish
I am indeed an LPs fan and would rather have “highly likely to be coral safe” fish. Feather dusters etc that I never added on purpose I’m less concerned about
 

Humblefish

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The Flame is fine, but I wouldn't put a Bellus/Watanabe in a tank that small. A Schooling Bannerfish will eventually outgrow your tank as well, but that will take years. (Angelfish grow faster than butterflyfish.)

Any tangs you add I would put in last to mitigate aggression towards other fish. One of the "Bristletooth Tangs" from the Ctenochaetus genus would be best suited for a 75 gal. Tomini, Kole, Two Spot or Squaretail.
 

DexterB

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Some from your list that personally love are:
  • Pink streaked wrasse
  • Bella goby - beautiful fish. I’m about to add 2 to my tank! I enjoy fish that do different activities in the tank. I don’t have corals on my sandbed. So you might want to ask others if the sifting scatters sand on sandbed corals like Scolies.
  • Flame Angel
  • Butterfly - CBB is my favorite. They imprint on their owners.
  • Hawkfish- I will always have a hawkfish! I’ve had Longnose & Flame. Both have been great to tankmates & fun to watch.
  • Mandarin & Helfrichi - no other fish have the gorgeous coloration that these 2 fish have.
 

phatduckk

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Some from your list that personally love are:
  • Pink streaked wrasse
  • Bella goby - beautiful fish. I’m about to add 2 to my tank! I enjoy fish that do different activities in the tank. I don’t have corals on my sandbed. So you might want to ask others if the sifting scatters sand on sandbed corals like Scolies.
  • Flame Angel
  • Butterfly - CBB is my favorite. They imprint on their owners.
  • Hawkfish- I will always have a hawkfish! I’ve had Longnose & Flame. Both have been great to tankmates & fun to watch.
  • Mandarin & Helfrichi - no other fish have the gorgeous coloration that these 2 fish have.
How reef safe are the Flame Angels? I've heard they're essentially a gamble. Also CBB seems cool but I hear their survival rate isn't very good
 

DexterB

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I'm stocking coral using suggestions according to video @mattzang posted.
Dwarf angels can be a risk. It doesn't matter how much you feed - it is more up to the individual fish & the corals in the tank. I’ve talked to owners who have dwarfs that don't nip & others that do.
Zoas are very enticing to angels. I don't have zoas. My 5 dwarf angels have left all my corals alone. Now that might change one day. I have goniporas, pipe organ & soft corals (no fleshy LPS) - like the video mentions. If they do nip one day, I will just rehome corals they bother.

I read an interesting post once by a fish expert, that said he had actually rehomed many tangs for coral nipping.

I got my CBB from Bobby. He did the QT work. Once through QT they are hardy & can live long lives. They are deliberate eaters. So if you place a CBB in with greedy/dominant fish they can be outcompeted to eat enough to thrive. CBB are very peaceful, so establish them before a tang or angel.

One thing that really helped me to watch videos of fish I was considering. In a video you see a flame hawk’s google eyes roll around & see the unique swimming pattern. At LFS you have to be able to see fish in real tanks (not holding tanks) to observe their natural behaviors.
I had a Gem tang, Whitetail & Blonde Naso in my previous tank. I actually prefer my tank now, so much more with my angels/butterflies. It’s a subjective thing. We enjoy their slower more relaxed swimming patterns much more. We do have a Blonde Naso, but naturally he is very chill.

Will be following to see the suggestions you receive. 🙂
 

mattzang

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How reef safe are the Flame Angels? I've heard they're essentially a gamble. Also CBB seems cool but I hear their survival rate isn't very good
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i have mine with euphyllia, some softies toadstool GSP shrooms kenya tree etc, favia, pectinia, cyphastrea, goni things like that and he leaves them alone. but i don't have super meaty corals. i do have some zoas that he leaves alone, but can't say i'm going to drop big money on those as there's always a risk he decides they're delicious

totes worth as angels/butterflies are the prettiest fish imo
 

phatduckk

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I'm stocking coral using suggestions according to video @mattzang posted.
Dwarf angels can be a risk. It doesn't matter how much you feed - it is more up to the individual fish & the corals in the tank. I’ve talked to owners who have dwarfs that don't nip & others that do.
Zoas are very enticing to angels. I don't have zoas. My 5 dwarf angels have left all my corals alone. Now that might change one day. I have goniporas, pipe organ & soft corals (no fleshy LPS) - like the video mentions. If they do nip one day, I will just rehome corals they bother.

I read an interesting post once by a fish expert, that said he had actually rehomed many tangs for coral nipping.

I got my CBB from Bobby. He did the QT work. Once through QT they are hardy & can live long lives. They are deliberate eaters. So if you place a CBB in with greedy/dominant fish they can be outcompeted to eat enough to thrive. CBB are very peaceful, so establish them before a tang or angel.

One thing that really helped me to watch videos of fish I was considering. In a video you see a flame hawk’s google eyes roll around & see the unique swimming pattern. At LFS you have to be able to see fish in real tanks (not holding tanks) to observe their natural behaviors.
I had a Gem tang, Whitetail & Blonde Naso in my previous tank. I actually prefer my tank now, so much more with my angels/butterflies. It’s a subjective thing. We enjoy their slower more relaxed swimming patterns much more. We do have a Blonde Naso, but naturally he is very chill.

Will be following to see the suggestions you receive. 🙂
Thanks for the info. Ya a CBB is something I've been considering. My tank is potentially small... if the guidance was 4ft long I'd be ok but since everyone says 120g it gives me a bit of pause. my logically side thinks its probably ok but deep down I worry about people tank shaming
 

phatduckk

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Thinking if I go CBB I can then drop the tang from the list and get a lawnmower blenny... hmmm

Would a CBB be ok in a 47" x 20" x 21"?
 

mattzang

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how about a foxface for herbivoring? peaceful, slightly pokey, does get kinda big, but idk i think i'd put one in that tank size and not feel bad
 

DexterB

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Would a CBB be ok in a 47" x 20" x 21"?
I will let others weigh in on this. I would say a lot depends on what other fish you would put with it. I would not have it in with several large fish in that foot print - so it is not outcompeted.
They don't pace or speed like some fish, so I wouldn't think length would be an issue.
CBBs love to explore & pick. They are inquisitive fish and like a lot of caves, arches etc. (not a minimalistic tank). Depending on your stocking list & if they have caves etc to explore one might be fine.
 
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phatduckk

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I will let others weigh in on this. I would say a lot depends on what other fish you would put with it. I would not have it in with several large fish in that foot print - so it is not outcompeted.
They don't pace or speed like some fish, so I wouldn't think length would be an issue.
CBBs love to explore & pick. They are inquisitive fish and like a lot of caves, arches etc. (not a minimalistic tank). Depending on your stocking list & if they have caves etc to explore one might be fine.
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heres what the scape looks like. I have a bunch of extra rock and am going to build an arch or a shelf between the 2 mounds on either side.

Initially I wanted to have a nem or a clam and left the center open; I’ve since decided against it & would rather have more fish hiding spots plus Ill have more space for coral
 

DexterB

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Also my idea is 1 big fish. The anthias would be the second largest but not “huge”
I had some fish on your list in my previous tank & a few in this one. I’ll look up some pics and send them to you,
You make have seen this already but check out this to see CBB head twitch - they do this to beg for food,
 
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