Hybrid TTM to treat all parasites!

Humblefish

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That means we can transfer at 48 hours to remove velvet?
No, 36 hours. Following this TTM schedule should clear both Ich & velvet:

Day 1 - fish in tank
Day 2 - 1st transfer at 36 hours
Day 4 - 2nd transfer at 36 hours
Day 5 - 3rd transfer at 36 hours
Day 7 - 4th transfer at 36 hours
Day 10 - 5th transfer at 71 hours
Day 13 - 6th transfer at 71 hours
 

tanthaitrung

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No, 36 hours. Following this TTM schedule should clear both Ich & velvet:

Day 1 - fish in tank
Day 2 - 1st transfer at 36 hours
Day 4 - 2nd transfer at 36 hours
Day 5 - 3rd transfer at 36 hours
Day 7 - 4th transfer at 36 hours
Day 10 - 5th transfer at 71 hours
Day 13 - 6th transfer at 71 hours
We must transfer 36 hours exactly? Sometimes I go outside and not come back on time. It can be 35 or 37 hours?
 

Jessican

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has anyone had any bad reactions with h2o2 baths yet? from what i've seen the fish don't seem to mind them at all. my orangeback fairy wrasse was kinda pouting hanging on the bottom, but that just seems like standard stressed wrasse behavior
I tried it on a bluestreak cleaner wrasse a couple weeks ago, and he didn't seem to react well at all. Kept flipping upside down on me and being really listless. Maybe it was just wrasse dramatics, but I didn't like it so I pulled him.

Today, though, I did the bath on a royal gramma, two percula clowns, a banggai cardinal, and a possum wrasse. They were all unfazed.

I have to say, we know that wrasses are usually delicate, but I think possum wrasses are an exception to that. This little guy is on his third exposure to velvet without developing any symptoms, he's made it through both copper and chloroquine treatments without issue, I haven't seen any negative reactions to antibiotics, he doesn't mind the peroxide, and the one time I almost lost him - a bacterial bloom in QT depleted the oxygen and he went belly up while I did an emergency water change - the little guy came back to life once I picked him up off the bottom. Tough little fish...or...maybe he's my Typhoid Mary... 😱
 

Sashaka

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I tried it on a bluestreak cleaner wrasse a couple weeks ago, and he didn't seem to react well at all. Kept flipping upside down on me and being really listless. Maybe it was just wrasse dramatics, but I didn't like it so I pulled him.

Today, though, I did the bath on a royal gramma, two percula clowns, a banggai cardinal, and a possum wrasse. They were all unfazed.

I have to say, we know that wrasses are usually delicate, but I think possum wrasses are an exception to that. This little guy is on his third exposure to velvet without developing any symptoms, he's made it through both copper and chloroquine treatments without issue, I haven't seen any negative reactions to antibiotics, he doesn't mind the peroxide, and the one time I almost lost him - a bacterial bloom in QT depleted the oxygen and he went belly up while I did an emergency water change - the little guy came back to life once I picked him up off the bottom. Tough little fish...or...maybe he's my Typhoid Mary... 😱
My experience using higher doses of H202 also suggested that some wrasses seem more sensitive than other species of fish to this treatment, but more research should be done to be sure. My engineer gobies also got very active, pacing the tank after treatments.
 

TheLoneAquarist

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has anyone had any bad reactions with h2o2 baths yet? from what i've seen the fish don't seem to mind them at all. my orangeback fairy wrasse was kinda pouting hanging on the bottom, but that just seems like standard stressed wrasse behavior

I've successfully put a Diamond Watchman Goby through two H202 baths in a Hybrid TTM protocol as outlined by @Humblefish . Fish is doing great and eating well.
 

Kups

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Putting two clowns through this with hopefully a royal gramma and toby puffer to follow. The clowns did a 30 min h2o2 bath today and seemed fine. One was racing around but was likely more to do with the container than h2o2. Looking forward to completing tank transfer method for first time.
 

Northernalberta

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Well I did the first transfer and h202 dip on my royal flasher wrasse and orangeback fairy wrasse. They were fine in the dip but definitely look stressed in the new tank. But I will watch and hopefully they are good over the next couple hours.
 

Humblefish

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Northernalberta

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I followed exactly. Temp and salinity matched water from the next qt tank ready for the transfer. Dosed to 150. 7.5ml in 6 cups of water. Not sure what happened. Second wrasse is laying on the bottom of the tank this morning looking bad and breathing heavy. Don’t think it will last the day.
 

Humblefish

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I followed exactly. Temp and salinity matched water from the next qt tank ready for the transfer. Dosed to 150. 7.5ml in 6 cups of water. Not sure what happened. Second wrasse is laying on the bottom of the tank this morning looking bad and breathing heavy. Don’t think it will last the day.
Are you sure you used 3% H2O2? I don't know if H2O2 commonly found in Canada might contain a higher percentage of peroxide. :unsure:
 

Kups

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I gave my 2 clowns their 2nd h2o2 bath yesterday. Went well and they are in tank 4. Hope your wrasse pulled through Northernalberta
 

Kups

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Clowns completed TTM and went into their new home last night. Seem to be settling in fine. Will start the process for a Royal Gramma and Blue Spotted puffer later today.
 

bken1313

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3% for sure. All I can see is that the fish had some ammonia damage on their gills from before I got them. Really has me stumped.
Peroxide is not recommended for fish with open wounds. Perhaps the gills hadn’t healed enough to handle 150ppm? I’ve put a choris wrasse, two cardinals, a yellow tang and a Kole tang through 150 ppm baths. All survived and are healthy, but all were also seemingly healthy prior to the H2O2 baths.
 

Kups

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Hoping someone can offer advice on feeding and light during TTM. I'm using 10 gallon tanks and filling with approximately 8 gallons of water. No filtration, just air stone, heater and pvc for hiding.
Would a best practice be to only feed on the 3rd day a few hours prior to transferring? Also, do most of you keep the tanks relatively dark for the most part?
I'm just concerned for my royal gramma as it seems to stress easily.
 
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