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EAChris

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I've never found a good way of loading nori with medications. Soaking it in dissolved GC seems to work somewhat, but the nori can only absorb so much of it. The rest just rinses off in the water.
I guess maybe saturating some DMSO with GC until no more will dissolve and using some nori that has been stored in a package with a dessicant. I have some nori that is really brittle from being kept very very dry.

DMSO has the odd trait of smelling like garlic after it has been in contact with human skin so maybe it turns into Garlic Guard on nori. :D
 

blackstallion

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@Humblefish I don't see this recommendation in your food soaking instructions, but would it be a good idea to first fully dissolve API GC with a couple drops of DMSO to aid in the absorption into the dry food/pellets?

Or is this not recommended?
 

Humblefish

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@Humblefish I don't see this recommendation in your food soaking instructions, but would it be a good idea to first fully dissolve API GC with a couple drops of DMSO to aid in the absorption into the dry food/pellets?
Yes, but let me defer to @Dierks on this as I have not had much need to food soak medications as of late.
 

blackstallion

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Food soaking vs. dosing the water Sometimes dosing the water with the above medication(s) can help clear an internal pathogen. After all, fish do drink the water, and their skin will absorb medications. However, I feel soaking fish food with medication(s) is the best way to treat internal problems for obvious reasons. Food soaking delivers meds directly into the gut where most internal pathogens live. In order to food soak, you should also use a binder (e.g. Seachem Focus, unflavored gelatin, agar) to prevent the medication from just leaching out into the water. Binding also makes the treatment reef safe. My recipe for food soaking dewormers can be found below:

Using a shot glass:
  • 1 Tbsp food (preferably pellets or frozen food)
  • 1 scoop (~ 1/8 teaspoon) of medication (General Cure OR Fenbendazole + Metroplex)
  • 1-2 scoops Seachem Focus (this makes it reef safe + binds the medication to the food)
  • A pinch of Epsom salt to help expel dead worms/parasites
  • A few drops of saltwater or fish vitamins
  • Stir until a medicated food slurry has been achieved.
  • Feed after soaking for 30 mins.
  • Refrigerate or freeze any leftovers for future use.
  • You can feed this mix 1-2 times per day. Not recommend to exceed 2 feedings per day with medicated food.
  • Feed daily for 2-3 weeks, or until poop returns to a solid brown or green color (no white).
Can you clarify the "1 scoop of medication"?

Is that 1 scoop of Metro AND 1 scoop of Fenbendazole, so in essence 2 scoops total, OR, 1/2 scoop Metro + 1/2 scoop Fenbendazole to make effectively 1 scoop of medicine?

Also, if this is being performed in a QT, and I am not concerned about the Fenbendazole killing anything else in the tank, is Focus still recommended?
 

Dierks

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so in essence 2 scoops total
This one is his advise -- I have asked him a million times about this as well! When I make my food I use one scoop of each and seem to have success. but the truth of it is I am using more then a Tablespoon of food so.... The trick is getting them to eat it so you cant load it up to much or they wont touch it, but you cant go to low or the medication doesn't work...

Also, if this is being performed in a QT, and I am not concerned about the Fenbendazole killing anything else in the tank, is Focus still recommended?
I use focus with every feed medication... The small amount that you dose into the QT isnt enough to be any effect on the fish. (Remember we have to use 95mg/Gallon for Fenbendazole!!)
 
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