International Medication Guide

[Peltch92]

Thanks for the heads up. I found general cure and focus on Amazon.com but they won’t arrive for a few weeks. Which is unfortunate. I found copper power and now have my QT at 2.0 and climbing slowly to 2.5 as per Humble’s guidelines.

The unfortunate part I speak of is I noticed white stringy poop from my biggest prize clown in QT today and I believe he’s getting smaller but eats like crazy. I feel he may have worms and I cannot locate anything to treat and I fear by the time the meds show up from across the border it may be too late.

Anyone have any suggestions for what I can do for now? I’m feeding frozen Spirulina Brine and tomorrow morning I’m going to feed frozen Krill just to mix it up.

Anyone with Canadian suggestions for drugs, please help.

 

[Humblefish]

Anyone have any suggestions for what I can do for now? I’m feeding frozen Spirulina Brine and tomorrow morning I’m going to feed frozen Krill just to mix it up.

You can try putting a pinch of Epsom salt in the fish food which will sometimes flush worms/parasites out of the intestines. Doesn't kill them like medication does, but it might buy you some time until the medication shows up.

 

[Peltch92]

You can try putting a pinch of Epsom salt in the fish food which will sometimes flush worms/parasites out of the intestines. Doesn't kill them like medication does, but it might buy you some time until the medication shows up.

Thanks Humble, do I need focus to bind it? I’m awaiting focus as well.

 

[Humblefish]

Thanks Humble, do I need focus to bind it? I’m awaiting focus as well.

Not necessarily. It's more important to bind actual medications so they do not leach out into the water. You can also use agar or even unflavored gelatin as a binder. There is a recipe here at the bottom: http://fisheries.tamu.edu/files/2013/09/Preparing-Your-Own-Fish-Feeds.pdf

 

[Peltch92]

Hello everyone, has anyone used this as Fenbendazole?

I’m attempting to use this to treat for worms in a medicated gelatin mix after some discussion with another member. I’m going to order the version he buys but I can get this quickly so was wondering if it would work the same. He had some concerns of the fillers and I have to agree. Many unknowns to myself here.

 

[Jessican]

Hello everyone, has anyone used this as Fenbendazole?

I’m attempting to use this to treat for worms in a medicated gelatin mix after some discussion with another member. I’m going to order the version he buys but I can get this quickly so was wondering if it would work the same. He had some concerns of the fillers and I have to agree. Many unknowns to myself here.

Panacur is mentioned in the UK section of the OP:

Another alternative to praziquantel is Panacur (fenbendazole). Note: NOT reef safe, even when bound to food. Use only in a QT setting.

• For internal parasites, dosage is 2mg/litre once a week for 3 weeks.
• For flukes, it is used as a 12 hour bath treatment at a dosage of 25mg per 1L of saltwater, and the fish would need to go into a clean tank after to prevent reinfection.

What are the inactive ingredients that you’re concerned about?

 

[Peltch92]

Panacur is mentioned in the UK section of the OP:


What are the inactive ingredients that you’re concerned about?

This is what a fellow forum member and I have found.


A quick search someone said the inactive ingredients are:
Excipients
Lactose monohydrate, Povidone 2500 and Maize starch.

 

[mikeintoronto]

This is what a fellow forum member and I have found.


A quick search someone said the inactive ingredients are:
Excipients
Lactose monohydrate, Povidone 2500 and Maize starch.

They are all food safe. These are found usually in tablets. They each excipient has a function (tablet shape, hardness, maintaining content uniformity) so they aren’t toxic. They could be bacteria food or could course clouding but as for direct safety, they are safe.

 

[Peltch92]

They are all food safe. These are found usually in tablets. They each excipient has a function (tablet shape, hardness, maintaining content uniformity) so they aren’t toxic. They could be bacteria food or could course clouding but as for direct safety, they are safe.

Thanks very much my friend.

 

[Colin_S]

This is fantastic... don't know what else to say other than that

 

[Redcoris]

Hi guys,
just a quick note to say you can purchase Hikari prazipro here in the UK now. i could never find this before and was using fluke solve.

 

[Tony Thompson]

Hi @Humblefish with the current hype over Chloroquine phosphate and its limited availability, especially in Europe where it can normally be listed as a prescriptive drug. Do you have any experience of using this form of quinine, Quinine hydrochloride.

Parasitic Diseases of Aquarium Fishes
Conference Proceedings : International Assoc Aquatic Anim Med : IAAAM Archive. John W. Fournie
quinine hydrochloride, and malachite green. Another lethal ciliate that parasitizes the gills of....

The reason I ask is it is available as a a herbal solution from a well known Aquarium supplier (sera Phyto med Protazid) This product is widely available including in Europe. I could not determine the specs, but it list the active ingredient as "quinine (as hydrochloride)"

Would be very interested in your thoughts.

Hope you got to watch the SOFI webinar, if not the presentations are now available on Youtube.

Best wishes Tony

 

[Humblefish]

@Tony Thompson Unfortunately, Quinine is much harsher on fish than Chloroquine (at least IME). You might as well treat with copper.

 

[Anemone Reefer]

You can get Copper Power from the vitamin grocer website here in Australia.

 

[Jessican]

You can get Copper Power from the vitamin grocer website here in Australia.

Can you post a link so I can add it to the OP?

 

[Anemone Reefer]

Can you post a link so I can add it to the OP?

COPPER POWER - Blue For Saltwater - 16 fl. oz. (473 ml)

Copper Power Blue is a safe as well as effective copper treatment for marine fish. This is used at 2.5 ppm copper, which is nearly 5-times the normal toxic level of copper in salt water.

vitamingrocer.com.au

 

[Humblefish]

Looks like they have a UK outlet as well:

COPPER POWER - Blue For Saltwater - 16 fl. oz. (473 ml)

Copper Power Blue is a safe as well as effective copper treatment for marine fish. This is used at 2.5 ppm copper, which is nearly 5-times the normal toxic level of copper in salt water.

uk.vitamingrocer.com

Edit: Looks like its sourced from the US, but they will ship to a lot of international destinations.

 

[Reefahholic]

How cool is this?! International guide! I’m digging it.

 

[Tony Thompson]

Hi @Humblefish , with regards the UK medicine availability, I would like discuss a couple of points.

The link to Formalin: Formaldehyde 37% ACS please note the MDS for this product. the %w/w methanol is only 6%-8%.

The link NT Labs Koi Care Formaldehyde the concentration by weight is 30% Formaldehyde. This is my preferred product as this also contains the recommended level of methanol 10% - 15% possibly less chance of precipitation to Paraformaldehyde. The lower level of Formaldehyde in my opinion should still be effective as per (Paperna et al. 1981) cited in Noga second edition. The effective dose is quite wide.

Would be very interested in your thoughts.

Thanks Tony.

 

[Tony Thompson]

United Kingdom users update on the use of Formaldehyde / Formalin ( Formaldehyde@37% w/w) Please read both statements for clarification on use for aquarium fish.

Statement extracted from - Member of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons online




"Guidelines clarify regulations vets should abide by

New guidelines to assist veterinary surgeons considering formaldehyde for the treatment of fish have been approved by the British Veterinary Association (BVA).

Developed by the BVA and the Fish Veterinary Society (FVS), the guidelines clarify how formaldehyde can be used and what regulations vets must abide by. They also include information for formaldehyde’s use as a biocide.

Formaldehyde is classified as a Category 1B carcinogen. It is used both as a medicine to treat fish and as a biocide to disinfect facilities and equipment.

The use of formaldehyde to treat or prevent fish diseases falls within the scope of the Veterinary Medicines Regulations. Veterinary surgeons can only prescribe the compound via the Cascade, as there are no authorised medicinal products containing formaldehyde in the UK."




Statement extracted from - gov.co.uk

"Exemption from authorisation for medicines for small pet animals​

How to comply with the exemption from the Veterinary Medicines Regulations that allow certain animal medicines to be sold without an authorisation."

"Medicines for the following species are exempt provided the animals are kept exclusively as pets and are not intended to produce food for human consumption:

• aquarium animals, (including only fish kept in closed water systems)"

"Active substances​

Exempted medicines can only contain active substances which have been approved for the purposes of this exemption by the Secretary of State. Approval may not be granted if the active substance requires veterinary control"

List of approved active ingredients for small animals (PDF, 369KB, 21 pages)."

"Medicines not included in the exemption​

The following medicines are not covered by this exemption:

• antibiotics
• narcotic or psychotropic substances*
• those not intended for treatments or pathological processes that required a precise diagnosis by a vet or the use of which may cause effects that impede or interfere with subsequent diagnostic or therapeutic measures

*Certain sedatives may be permitted for use with fish. You should confirm this with the VMD."