Here is a link to my video showing how to rehydrate freeze dried food. attain ZERO floaters with mysis!! It should also allow medicating foods more effectively.I invite @Humblefish to add affililate links if he'd like.
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esther
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That's awesome. Where did you get the little cup with seal?
Comes with the kit. as i mentioned in the video, you need to cap off one hole. i just used a lighter to melt and pinch it shut. eventually, i'll get a better setup. This was the cheapest one to test my theory on.
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This freeze dried food really gives confidence that the meds are in it. Just mixed up a concoction of mysis and calanus with crushed multivitamin, amino acids , fish oil, krill oil, pinch of Epsom, metronidazole, and Fenbendazole. Used a scoop of focus and dmso. The focus helped emulsify the oils a little. Fish ate it like it was caviar. It makes me think oral chloroquine may be viable if you can get the stuff IN the food, not on it. Possibly effective for ich management. Not sure the research inspires confidence for proper disease/parasite irradiation though. As, in a DT, you'd need to be very precise in dosing (almost impossible) with food. Oral administration can lead to pretty quick overdose I suspect.
mggray87
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i have a kit similar to that. very similar sitting in my nightstand.. I wonder if would work for this as well?
The o-ring won't seal the container for food too well
Soaking freeze dried fish food in meds is something that just occurred to me yesterday. Like some, I have been skeptical at the notion that focus would bind things like GC or metro to frozen foods. This seems like a good way to make sure the food is infused with medications. And if focus does work anything like described, hopefully, none of the meds will leach back out of the food.
Has anyone actually tried this though with medications? If so, how have your fish responded?
Edit: Never mind. This post explicitly states that he has used it for meds.
Has anyone actually tried this though with medications? If so, how have your fish responded?
Edit: Never mind. This post explicitly states that he has used it for meds.
Yes. I haven't seen much for spitting the food back out. I'd like to try it with Chloroquine as that's about the nastiest tasting meds for fish there is. (I may have tasted it and may have have that gross bitter taste in my mouth for SEVERAL hours after.) It definitely works well for getting fish and krill oil into the food rather than having it just come off and make the watwe surface oily and gross.
I actually do this as well, works great so far!
What do you treat with Chloroquine (other than Covid
)? If you are dealing with ick or velvet, I would have thought you would want to move the fish to a hospital tank and maybe go fallow on the DT. Or are you saying that ingesting chloroquine soaked food is a better way to treat ick and velvet in a hospital tank?@Humblefish Have you tried food soaking freeze dried food as a way to deliver medication? If so, what were your findings? I am surprised this is not SOP for you given the success others have had.
@Jposch @Dierks Thanks for the feedback guys. I just put some freeze dried calanus and brine shrimp in my shopping cart. I have small fish and nano tanks so whole mysis probably would not work for my fish.
By the way, what prompted the whole vacuum pump thing? Does freeze dried food not eventually soak up liquid?
By the way, what prompted the whole vacuum pump thing? Does freeze dried food not eventually soak up liquid?
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Its because no matter how long you soak Freeze dried food it always floats.
I used freeze dried before the vacuum pump, but it only worked okay... But Then @Jposch came along and talked about actually sucking the liquid into the food and replacing the air and it works a treat.
Humblefish
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I have not. It's on my to-do list.
ReefBeta
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I learned this trick from a science affair. The negative pressure draws out air from water, including those that trapped inside the food, so they sink. I tried couple time with 10mk syringe, but didn't know how to scale it up when making my diy frozen food mix. This will really help.
For medicate food mix, a 10ml syringe might actually work better. Add the food and liquid in the syringe, and push out all the air. Then use a finger to block the syringe end and pull the plunger out. You'll see air bubble getting out from the liquid.
For medicate food mix, a 10ml syringe might actually work better. Add the food and liquid in the syringe, and push out all the air. Then use a finger to block the syringe end and pull the plunger out. You'll see air bubble getting out from the liquid.
When I make food, I try to use the minimum amount of liquid because I enrich the hell out of it with pharmaceutical amino acid mix, fish and krill oil, and vitamins. All of which are very very large nitrogen sources. If the fish doesn't consume the food, just a 1/4 cube worth can make your nitrates sky high overnight. I don't think amino acids break down to ammonia and nitrites. From what I've seen from dosing my reef, is it goes straight to nitrate. I also tried to only pull the food down to 15in/mg to avoid the food getting so soft and mushy, but it didn't seem to pull enough air out. I normally pull/release cycle the food and mix it between about 3 times to end up with no floaters when added to tank.