Medication Dosing Guide

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Can this be used to in place of furan 2? it does contain Nitrofurazone, Furazolidone, Pnotassium Dichromate
Yes, although that product might be too diluted to be useful for saltwater fish.

This source claims the Nitrofurazone dosage is 18.4 mg: DailyMed - FUNGUS GUARD- nitrofurazone and potassium dichromate tablet, effervescent

(I cannot say for sure whether they mean 18.4 mg per gallon or 18.4 mg per tablet which treats 10 gallons.)

However, I typically dose @ 25 mg per gallon every 48 hours when using Nitrofurazone.
 

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@Humblefish when you have encountered prazi resistant flukes, how did you discover them? Freshwater dipping after the completed prazi treatment? I ask because I have a round of fish who have graduated from copper and metro and are now in the prazi observation tank.
I'm not noticing signs of flukes, but I want to cross my Ts and dot my Is before they go in the display.
 

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@Humblefish when you have encountered prazi resistant flukes, how did you discover them? Freshwater dipping after the completed prazi treatment? I ask because I have a round of fish who have graduated from copper and metro and are now in the prazi observation tank.
I'm not noticing signs of flukes, but I want to cross my Ts and dot my Is before they go in the display.
Then, Fenbendazole is the strongest treatment you can do AFAIK, but dosage and time of bath are very important. Fish cannot handle any more than 12 hours at 95mg/gal. Also, DMSO is NOT optional.
 

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@Humblefish when you have encountered prazi resistant flukes, how did you discover them? Freshwater dipping after the completed prazi treatment?
Because the fish continue to scratch post 2x prazi treatment. Sometimes you can even see the flukes on them, if they are large enough and the fish is dark colored. Or a 5 minute freshwater dip confirms skin flukes. Gill flukes are more difficult to diagnose, because you typically will only see the fish scratching their gills and that could mean flukes or parasites inside the gills.
 

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Can Metroplex and PraziPro be given at the same time? I.e., adding Prazi to the water column and feeding metro using the recipe? Specifically I am treating a pair of yellow meringue wrasse (Halichoeres leucoxanthus) in a quarantine tank.
 

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Can Metroplex and PraziPro be given at the same time? I.e., adding Prazi to the water column and feeding metro using the recipe? Specifically I am treating a pair of yellow meringue wrasse (Halichoeres leucoxanthus) in a quarantine tank.
Yes. That should be ok, but prazi suppesses appitite and meds taste gross (metro not so bad) so if theyll eat it, then go for it
 

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** Antibiotics **

Enrofloxacin: 9.5 - 19 mg/gal daily for 7 days; can be used both in a QT or as a 5 hour bath treatment.

** Misc. **

DMSO: Aids in dissolving praziquantel, fenbendazole and other not easily water soluble medications. The following ratios were provided by @Dierks:
  • 1 ml of DMSO is required to dissolve 10mg of Fenbendazole
  • 1 ml of DMSO is required to dissolve 15mg of Metronidazole
  • 1 ml of DMSO is required to dissolve 20 mg of Praziquantel
Two quick questions...
  1. What is the recommended dosage for the Enrofloxacin 5 hour bath treatment.

  2. When mixing with DSMO, do you mix with only DMSO or is it a combination of DMSO + 'other'?

    If there is a need for 'other' would that be saltwater or RO?

    If it's DMSO + 'other', does it matter how much of the other is used? For example, if the ratio called for 50ml of DMSO would it matter if I was stirring in a mixing beaker with 1L of 'other' vs 2L of 'other'? Is there a minimum or maximum amount of 'other'?
Thank you!
 

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What is the recommended dosage for the Enrofloxacin 5 hour bath treatment.
Enrofloxacin (Most advanced antibiotic approved for use in tropical fish ... Dosage range is 2.5 - 5 mg/L daily for 7 days; can be used both in a QT or as a 5 hour bath treatment. The tricky thing about Enrofloxacin is the 2.5 - 5 mg/L dosage range is actually safe for QT use, but the nitrifying bacteria will also take a hit. So, the primary reason to administer the medication as a 5 hr bath is to spare your biofilter.)

When mixing with DSMO, do you mix with only DMSO or is it a combination of DMSO + 'other'?
You only mix with DMSO. However, practically speaking you only need to use DMSO with praziquantel & fenbendazole because both of those medications are not easily water soluble.

More info: How To - Use DMSO to dissolve medications
 

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Two quick questions...
  1. What is the recommended dosage for the Enrofloxacin 5 hour bath treatment.

  2. When mixing with DSMO, do you mix with only DMSO or is it a combination of DMSO + 'other'?

    If there is a need for 'other' would that be saltwater or RO?

    If it's DMSO + 'other', does it matter how much of the other is used? For example, if the ratio called for 50ml of DMSO would it matter if I was stirring in a mixing beaker with 1L of 'other' vs 2L of 'other'? Is there a minimum or maximum amount of 'other'?
Thank you!
Also note that when you use DSMO it WILL STINK! So this is normal... :sick:
 

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Enrofloxacin (Most advanced antibiotic approved for use in tropical fish ... Dosage range is 2.5 - 5 mg/L daily for 7 days; can be used both in a QT or as a 5 hour bath treatment. The tricky thing about Enrofloxacin is the 2.5 - 5 mg/L dosage range is actually safe for QT use, but the nitrifying bacteria will also take a hit. So, the primary reason to administer the medication as a 5 hr bath is to spare your biofilter.)
Thanks for this. I had seen this data. Admittedly I am still confused.

Is the protocol to administer a 5 hour bath once per day for 7 days total? Presumably at 5mg/L?

If so, then I do understand. I guess I'd be concerned that the catch and release twice a day for a week would be hard on the fish.

I had thought this to mean a single 5 hour bath presumably at a higher concentration? Is that not correct?

My assumption was based partially on this statement from the NFP product page.

"Enrofloxacin has demonstrated a significant post-antibiotic effect for both gram-negative and gram-positive bacteria and is active in both stationary and growth phases of bacterial replication."

The suggestion of significant post-antibiotic effect is what led me to believe that a single bath at a higher dosage would treat similarly to a prolonged exposure at lower dosage. Granted this was an assumption.
 
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I wanted to compile a quick reference of the most common aquarium medications we use, and provide dosing guidelines/ranges for each. Below you will find information pertaining to both aquarium brand medications and related generics. Generally speaking, using generics (I buy from here) is preferred because they are more pure and contain less fillers. However, you will need to use a small digital scale to accurately measure generic medications. Also keep in mind that some medications (especially antibiotics) will have ranges listed - lowest to highest tolerated therapeutic range. It's best to use the low range when treating species that are known to be sensitive to medications (e.g. anthias, dragonets, wrasses, scaleless fish, etc.) However, sometimes the only way to overcome a virulent infection (or similar) is to treat at maximum therapeutic.

** Antibiotics **
Ciprofloxacin: 1-2 hour bath treatment @ 250mg per gal. Repeat every 24 hours for 7 days. Methylene Blue can be added to increase efficacy.

Enrofloxacin: 9.5 - 19 mg/gal daily for 7 days; can be used both in a QT or as a 5 hour bath treatment.

Erythromycin (for eye infections): 12.5 - 25 mg/gal every 24 hours with a 25% water change before each treatment. Treat for 10-14 days.
Aquarium Brands: E.M. ERYTHROMYCIN (1 packet per 10 gallons) or Maracyn (1 packet per 10 gallons).

Kanamycin Sulfate: 25 - 37.5 mg/gal every 48 hours (24 hours for severe problems) with a 25% water change before each treatment. Treat for 10 - 14 days.
Aquarium Brands: Seachem Kanaplex (1 scoop per 5 gallons) or AAP Spectrogram 1 capsule per 10 gals (Kanamycin/Nitrofurazone synergistic combination, which can also be used with Metronidazole.)

Neomycin Sulfate: 25 mg/gal every 24 hours with a 25% water change before each treatment. Treat for 10 days. For fish tuberculosis, use for up to 30 days.
Aquarium Brands: Seachem Neoplex (1 measure per 2 gallons. Repeat this dose every 7 days to a maximum of 3 weeks.)

Nitrofuracin Green Powder: 1/4 teaspoon* per 20 gallons every 24 hours with a 25% water change before each treatment. Treat for 10 - 14 days.

* This works out to 1 gram per 20 gallons OR 50mg per gallon for in-tank treatment.

** NFG dosage is 100mg per gallon if doing just a 30 minute bath (thank you @Dierks).

Nitrofurazone: 10 - 25 mg/gal every 48 hours (24 hours for severe problems) with a 25-50% water change before each treatment. Treat for 10 - 14 days.
Aquarium Brands: API Furan-2 (1 packet per 10 gallons) or AAP Spectrogram 1 capsule per 10 gals (Kanamycin/Nitrofurazone synergistic combination, which can also be used with Metronidazole.)

Sulfa drugs (Sulfamerazine, Sulfamethazine, Sulfathiazole): 25 mg/gal every 48 hours (24 hours for severe issues) with a 25% water change before each treatment. Treat for a minimum of 10 days.
Aquarium Brands: API Triple Sulfa (1 packet per 10 gallons) or Seachem SulfaPlex (2-3 measures per 10 US gallons. Repeat this dose every 72 hours for a maximum of 3 weeks.)

** Copper Products ** (therapeutic level) and dosage required to achieve this
Copper Power (2.5 ppm): 1.48ml per gallon (or use this dosing calculator discovered by @HarleySt)

Copper sulfate pentahydrate (0.20 ppm): More info here

Cupramine (0.50 ppm): 4 drops (0.2ml) per gallon OR 1ml per 5 gallons

Cuprion (0.20 ppm): 1 drop per gallon

* Both Coppersafe and Kordon Copper Aid (2.0 ppm) can be used; however follow the directions on the label AND confirm reading via Hanna High Range Copper Colorimeter HI702. Actually, I would use the Hanna checker on all of the above as you may still need to dose a little extra in order to achieve full therapeutic.

** With copper never reach therapeutic all in one dosage! It's best to take at least 4-5 days (longer is ever better), dosing small amounts several times per day.

** Dewormers ** (External)
Fenbendazole: 12 hour bath treatment at 25 mg/L (95 mg/gallon)
** Bath must be repeated in about a week. Use this treatment calendar to determine when is the best time to do the SECOND bath: Marine Parasites

Hyposalinity: 15 ppt (1.011 SG) for 5 days eliminates juvenile and adult flukes + eggs. (y)

Praziquantel: 9.5 mg/gal (not easily water soluble so mix in a cup using a few drops of vodka before dosing)
Aquarium Brands: API General Cure (1 packet or scoop per 10 gallons) or Prazipro (1 teaspoon or 5ml per 20 gallons)
** Must be dosed at least TWICE, usually a week apart. Use this treatment calendar to determine when is the best time to add the second dose: Marine Parasites

** Dewormers ** (Internal)
My recipe for food soaking deworming medications can be found below:

Using a shot glass:
1 Tbsp food (preferably pellets or frozen food)
1 scoop (~ 1/8 teaspoon) of medication (API General Cure or Fenbendazole** + Metroplex)
1 or 2 scoops Seachem Focus (this makes it reef safe + binds the medication to the food)
A pinch of Epsom salt to help expel dead worms/parasites
A few drops of saltwater or fish vitamins
Stir until a medicated food slurry has been achieved.
Feed after soaking for 30 mins.
Refrigerate or freeze any leftovers for future use.
You can feed this mix 1-2 times per day. Not recommend to exceed 2 feedings per day with medicated food.

** There have been some reports that Fenbendazole doesn't always bind well to food, even when using Seachem Focus. Fenbendazole also doesn't appear to be as "reef safe" as praziquantel, metronidazole - the two active ingredients found in General Cure. Therefore, caution must be taken when using it in a tank with corals.

** Misc. **
Acriflavine: Best to use Ruby Reef Rally @ 1 teaspoon per gallon in a 90 minute bath. :Thumbs_up_green:

Chloroquine Phosphate: 40-60 mg/gal for 30 days (or 14 days and then transfer to a sterile observation tank at least 10 feet away)

DMSO: Aids in dissolving praziquantel, fenbendazole and other not easily water soluble medications. The following ratios were provided by @Dierks:
  • 1 ml of DMSO is required to dissolve 10mg of Fenbendazole
  • 1 ml of DMSO is required to dissolve 15mg of Metronidazole
  • 1 ml of DMSO is required to dissolve 20 mg of Praziquantel
Formalin (37% formaldehyde):
  • In-tank treatment: 1 milliliter (ml) per 10 gallons, or 2 drops per gallon daily in a bare aquarium.
  • Bath treatment: 30-60 minutes @ 0.6 ml per gallon, or 12 drops per gallon.
Freshwater Dip: No longer than 5 minutes (more info)

Hydrogen Peroxide: 20 ml of 3% H2O2 per 1 gallon of saltwater for 30 minutes

Methylene Blue: Best to use an aquarium product such as Kordon or Fritz.
  • 30 min bath (preferred): 1 teaspoon (5 ml) per 5 gallons.
  • In a quarantine tank: 1 teaspoon (5 ml) per 10 gallons every other day for 10 days with water changes before each treatment.
Metronidazole: 12.5 - 25 mg/gal every 48 hours (24 hours for severe problems) with a 25% water change before each treatment. Treat for 10 days.
Aquarium Brands: Seachem MetroPlex (1-2 measures per 10 gallons. Repeat this dose every 48 hours for up to 3 weeks or until symptoms disappear.)

** You can use MS-222 Tricaine for both sedation and euthanasia: Tricaine-S

The spreadsheet for determining both dosages can be downloaded here: https://pentairaes.com/media/docs/treatment_calculator_excel_2010.xlsx
1 scoop (~ 1/8 teaspoon) of medication (API General Cure or Fenbendazole** + Metroplex)
assuming I need to deworm internally, and using gen cure, does this line mean 1 scoop (1/8 teaspoon) of general cure and 1 scoop (1/8 teaspoon) of metroplex?
 

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When measuring out food for medication soaking should I take my frozen LRS food and cram it into a tablespoon to measure out the right amount?
it just feels like a lot of food.

How many Brine cubes make one tablespoon? 2-3?
 

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When measuring out food for medication soaking should I take my frozen LRS food and cram it into a tablespoon to measure out the right amount?
it just feels like a lot of food.
How many Brine cubes make one tablespoon? 2-3?

I would let it thaw first, and then measure in a tablespoon. You can refrigerate or freeze the "leftovers" for future use. Depending upon how much you feed per day.
 
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