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clsanchez77

20 Year Noob
Good luck with your surgery and tell the old doc hello. I still remember that skit with him and Dave Letterman going out around town :)
 

Humblefish

Dr. Fish
@Paul B I'm currently re-reading your book. But in the bathroom this time, so my wife doesn't keep telling me to pay attention to how all the men on The Bachelorette try to woo the woman. :p Anyway, my two favorite quotes from your book so far are:

"If it were not for liquid copper, there would be no saltwater fish hobby." - Page 21

"If I were to set up a new tank tomorrow, I would quarantine everything." - Page 27

:eek::D
 

Paul B

Well-known member
My tank is doing great and the few SPS that I thought would croak are growing "arms" all over the place.
My old copperband who I have not seen eat in a month is also fine and doesn't look like he lost any weight, kind of like me. :rolleyes:

I am also surprised my janss pipefish is still living as I never thought that fish would make it but I have him maybe 4 years or so. I never remember these things. But I do know that in 14 months my tank will be running for 50 years. o_O
I am kind of proud of that. I am also proud that I got to this age.

The only paired fish I have continuously spawn, thats fireclowns and watchman gobies. One of them is obviously a Watchgirl.

My Hippo tang is beautiful (because I never quarantined, medicated, dipped or sang to) She is a little fat but doesn't have a mark on her. I have also never fed her any greens, just clams, worms and LRS food like everything gets but I do have some algae growing although I have never seen her eat any of that. I wish she would.

I "think" I have two possum wrasses but they hide so good that I have never seen the two of them at the same time so I am not sure if I have one or two.

My new Starburst Anthius only comes out into the open if I shut the lights, don't play Rap music and put a bag over my face. If I get back to that LFS that has them I will get another one as they are kind of nice and not very common like those silly tangs that I find boring.

I also have a very large long spined urchin that I think I got as a tiny baby. I have no recollection of buying it but It must have been ten years ago. I think I got it in a place in Flushing and I have not been there in at least that long.

My female bluestripe pipefish is very well and I would like to get her a male but my much bigger Janss pipefish doesn't play well with male pipefish of any species and he killed my last one.
The Janss Pipefish is about 4 times larger than the bluestripes.

I also need a male for my female Mandarin. Her mate died probably of old age. I think they only live about 10 years but I lost his birth certificate so I don't know.

I really should write down when I get these fish.


For Christmas my Son N Law gave me a book about the Dawn of man and how we evolved over a few million years.
I actually love this kind of stuff especially the fact that we are the last of dozens of Hominids that were "almost" human.

I feel some people today still fit into that category but I won't go into that. :rolleyes:

I find it amazing when these anthropologists find a relic like I was just reading about. They found a "piece" of a tooth
and a tiny piece of bone fragment from a femur.

From that they named the "Guy" with a Latin name. He was from Africa so maybe his name was Latin like Homer or Moses as opposed to Jim, Bill, Eddie or Bubba

They surmised he walked upright, probably with a Manly swagger, wore stylish clothes, ate buffalo wings and hot dogs.
Preferred red wine, was a decent dancer. Didn't like Rap music, preferring the classics and his Mother was a Sagittarius.

Then they had an artist rendering of the guy and he looked like Ringo Starr.
I am amazed they can get all of this from a tooth and bone fragment. ;Meh

My wife has been a lot of pain lately and tomorrow is going to get fitted for a leg brace which is supposed to help her walk better. I hope so but unfortunately it will do nothing for the pain and fatigue.

Maybe some of the money I gave the MS society will hasten a treatment in our lifetime.
 

clsanchez77

20 Year Noob
They surmised he walked upright, probably with a Manly swagger, wore stylish clothes, ate buffalo wings and hot dogs.
Preferred red wine, was a decent dancer. Didn't like Rap music, preferring the classics and his Mother was a Sagittarius.
Sounds like they found a piece of a left molar as opposed to a right molar. Much more information in the left molars.
 

Paul B

Well-known member
I found this on Facebook which I never go on but accidentally fell on there. I wrote this 2 or 3 years ago and don't even remember it.


This morning my wife and I were discussing how we lived when we were much younger and how the world has changed. My Dad and her Dad had retail stores. My dad had a fish market and just like her dad and everyone with a food market there was piles of saw dust on the floor. The cutting boards were wood, the knife handles were wood and the fish, and meat came in wooden crates as plastic was not available then. I am talking about the fifties.
I used to play in the back yard of our fish market and shoot flies with a rubber band. We also had live carp and eels in old bath tubs.

At the end of the week my Dad would sweep the floor and throw out all the old, fish scale infested sawdust and put down clean sawdust. Every night he would clean, using soap and bleach the knives and cutting boards.

Today, you are not allowed to use saw dust, wooden handled knives or cutting boards probably because of lawyers. I am sure someone, some where got sick and saw dust was blamed just like coffee can't be hot any more.
But it was the saw dust, cutting boards and wooden knife handles as well as numerous other things that enhanced our immune systems.

I was always an out doors kid and cut myself many times. I would rinse it off in a puddle or pond and go about my business never thinking about it.

I had an uncle that worked at the docks in NYC, one of the roughest places on Earth at that time. He got stabbed in the belly twice when 3 guys tried to mug him. (the muggers didn't fare very well) My Uncle wrapped the wounds in the same rag he cleaned eels with and lived to be about 90 never seeing a doctor or dentist in his life.

When my Mom would get a cold as a kid, her Mother would make her sleep in the horse stables thinking the smell of horse poop would cure her. (my Mom was born in lower Manhattan in 1910) My Mother lived to be 99 years old, she died of old age and was never sick and never even took an aspirin. How many people today could say that?

The point of this is that today how many kids do you know with allergies? How many kids are allergic to peanuts? How many kids are home from school with colds?
How many people in their 60s or 70s can you name with allergies?

Probably very few. As a kid no one in my school had any allergies and we all ate peanuts. I always got an attendance award because I was never out sick. I think in the 40 years I worked as a construction worker in Manhattan I was out maybe 3 or 4 times from being sick and never for having a cold, allergy or anything else except maybe a broken bone or disk problem.

That is IMO because I was brought up in a natural environment surrounded by bacteria and never having access to that silly sterilizing hand spray that people today feel they have to take baths in.
I still almost never get a cold, flu or any silly infection.

The little kids in My Grand Daughter's school almost all have some sort of allergy. My Grand Daughter is allergic to everything and half the kids in her school are allergic to something. Peanuts are outlawed in many restaurants and schools.

Kids today, (Like fish) get all sorts of things and in some homes it is an adventure waking up to see if the kids have some sort of infection.
I feel this is a big problem in our fish tanks and the biggest cause of all the posts on disease threads.
This is also why I go to a muddy bay and collect mud to throw in my tank. If I didn't live by the sea, I would throw regular dirt in there as I did when I started my tank.

I also feel we have to start thinking of bacteria as a good thing instead of a bad thing.
Just my thoughts of course and not meant to be taken as fact. Just an observation that is obvious to anyone who is a lot older than most fish people.
 

Humblefish

Dr. Fish
I think it's a calculated risk. Most Americans will hopefully never encounter a virulent pathogen in their lifetime, although it does still happen. In 2009, "swine flu" caused at least 2,290 deaths in the US. Both the 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus) and 1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) killed over 100,000 people EACH in the US. But I think its reading about things like the 1918 Spanish Flu (H1N1 influenza virus) that keeps people washing their hands, as that killed 50-100 million worldwide.

But getting back to fish, I've often wondered if they are sometimes wiped out when exposed to a pathogen from a different region. At the wholesale facilities fish from the Caribbean, Africa, Indo-Pacific and Australia are all housed together. You might have immunity to diseases from the part of the underwater world that you were collected from, but what happens when a fish from the Philippines is introduced to a strain of Ich which originated in the Caribbean?? After all, Smallpox from European settlers wiped out over 70 percent of the Native American population. :eek: I realize a fish's immune system is very different than a humans, but some basic principles still apply.
 

clsanchez77

20 Year Noob
But getting back to fish, I've often wondered if they are sometimes wiped out when exposed to a pathogen from a different region. At the wholesale facilities fish from the Caribbean, Africa, Indo-Pacific and Australia are all housed together. You might have immunity to diseases from the part of the underwater world that you were collected from, but what happens when a fish from the Philippines is introduced to a strain of Ich which originated in the Caribbean?? After all, Smallpox from European settlers wiped out over 70 percent of the Native American population. :eek: I realize a fish's immune system is very different than a humans, but some basic principles still apply.
+1 here. This is one of the reasons I believe purchasing Caribbean fish diver direct instead of through the traditional wholesale chain results in better health. Caribbean fish have gotten a bad reputation lately for not being healthy and as robust as they used to...I suspect the reason it is "used to" is that they used to not be exposed to the other fish at the prolific rates they are today.
 

Tamberav

Active member
I do have an iron stomach probably from eating too much food sitting out overnight in college and everyone gets the poops when traveling to another country but I'm golden and can eat just about whatever.
 

Paul B

Well-known member
I also have an iron stomach but I didn't go to college, they said I knew too much already. :rolleyes:
I got mine from Viet Nam eating C Rations every day for a year and drinking water from a pond after you pushed away the bugs and removed the leeches. Then when they were spraying Agent Orange on you while you were smoking the free cigarettes that came with the C Rations that were put in the box before, you were born. (everyone smoked in Nam)

The C Rations came with a little paper packet of chocolate to make hot chocolate. Most of the time bugs got into that and it was just a package of dead bug parts. If it was actually chocolate powder you ate it out of the package because it was a pain to heat water which we did with C4 explosive. We also used that if we wanted to heat the C Rations because they came in a box and all the grease was coagulated on top of whatever the meal was. It could be spaghetti, franks and beans, chicken or pork.

It didn't matter because food, any food in a can for 30 years all tastes the same. You know how spaghetti is supposed to be in strands? Put it in a can for 30 years and it looks like white Jello.

And you think it's hard keeping fish. :unsure:
 

Paul B

Well-known member
I really should go and collect some water as it has been a while and it will be in the 60s today which is weird for the middle of January.

As a kid we never saw this weather and in the winter the lakes would freeze and we would ice skate until April. Now we can plant tomatoes in February which isn't good for many things.

The pesty insects don't die nor do the infectious bacteria's and viruses. The birds forget to fly south and we get all sorts of tropical fish here (which isn't a bad thing)

Trees start to grow, then with a quick cold snap, they die.
The killer bees and fire ants which we can live without are moving north. We would rather you southerners keep them.

Near my friends house about 20 miles from here there are hundreds or thousands of tropical parrots that escaped from some pet thing 10 or 20 years ago and they have been breeding like crazy.
It's very cool but they are noisy and I have no idea what they eat in the winter as I have not seen one near a McDonalds.

When it snows now, which is very very rare, it melts the next morning when it gets to 50 degrees.
Ski resorts are teaching polities and macrame.
Sled manufacturers took up stamp collecting.

They used to have horse drawn sleigh rides around here, now the horses pull Toyota's.

I love warm weather but this is not right.

I will like to collect water but my knee re replacement is in a few weeks so in anticipation of that, my knee is trying to talk me out of doing it. But if I don't do it now, it will be many more months before I can carry any water.

Yesterday we were invited to a Valentines Day dance. I wanted to go until my wife reminded me that that is 3 days after my surgery and dancing would not be prudent at that time as my knee would probably fall out and roll across the dance floor. Thats true "Break Dancing" 🤩
 

Paul B

Well-known member
It's over 60 degrees here and I almost went swimming as I just came back from collecting water which is 40 degrees.

I am diatom filtering it now because it is full f seaweed. It was very windy and the pump didn't want to stay underwater in the surf so it kept coming back on to the beach.

I also couldn't back up to the water so I had to pump it into five gallon jugs and carry it back 100' to my Jeep.
Sometimes when I put all that weight in the Jeep I almost get stuck as the sand is very fine.
 

Humblefish

Dr. Fish
@Paul B I've been reading your book s'more. I am allowed 5-10 minutes per day in the bathroom where the book is. I one time spent 2 hours inside the bathroom writing an article, and after that my wife started timing me. :p

Anyway, I noticed starting on page 84 that you talk about running ozone in your skimmer (for 35 years now.) Since ozone is an oxidizer it can kill pathogens; ich and other parasites included. You don't think maybe this is the #1 reason why your fish seem "immune" to parasites??
 
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