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A review of the main bacterial fish diseases in mariculture systems

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Detection of antibody response against Amyloodinium ocellatum (Brown, 1931) in serum of naturally infected European sea bass by an enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA).

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Blood samples of nineteen sea bass from a naturally infected cultured population were analysed in order to evaluate specific antibody response against the parasitic dinoflagellate Amyloodinium ocellatum. The specific antibody response was evaluated by an indirect enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA), using whole parasite crude antigen and rabbit IgG anti sea bass-IgM. Experimental data showed that some of sampled specimens developed an adaptive immunological response against the parasite, detectable by indirect ELISA. Results let to conjecture that sea bass, showing an acquired immunity against A. ocellatum, could develop a partial resistance against new infections of the dinoflagellate.
 

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What's the protocal on a huge data bomb? I've bookmarked a bunch of papers over the years, many of wihich are related or on hte same subject. Should I group them? Leave out the ones that need to be purchased even though there is relavent info in the abstract? post just one at a time with links to others? Or do just one huge post that most will ignore as there's way too much to wade through?
 

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What's the protocal on a huge data bomb? I've bookmarked a bunch of papers over the years, many of wihich are related or on hte same subject. Should I group them? Leave out the ones that need to be purchased even though there is relavent info in the abstract? post just one at a time with links to others? Or do just one huge post that most will ignore as there's way too much to wade through?
I honestly would like to see the thread become a subforum with threads for fish, coral, inverts, general, etc.
 

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This would be best. Although we get to a point where we have too many subforums and it gets confusing. Especially for casual users.
We could just add one subforum in the specialty section and then add prefixes that you can use to tag the various papers. If you click on a prefix, it will show you only the papers with that prefix, which makes it easy to see only the specific type you want. If someone can give me a list of desired prefixes, I can get this set up.
 

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This would be best. Although we get to a point where we have too many subforums and it gets confusing. Especially for casual users.

We could just add one subforum in the specialty section and then add prefixes that you can use to tag the various papers. If you click on a prefix, it will show you only the papers with that prefix, which makes it easy to see only the specific type you want. If someone can give me a list of desired prefixes, I can get this set up.

Having spent a lot of time chasing links there are a lot of rabbit holes to go down and it's surprising where one ends up. :/

Like cryptic sponges depending on thier microbial simbionts may be processing DOC (carbon dosing) 1000X faster than the bacterioplankton that's removed by skimmers which would only remove what has hydrophobic qualities and the type and quantity of DOC influences the kinds of bacterioplankton and influences the individual coral microbiomes which the corals themselves are manipulating and depending on the innate immune system which available research suggests varies not at the species but genotype level so shifts in the microbiomes may or may not be causing coral diseases.

Having a list of prefixes with deifinitions seems a good way to start but what about cross refferencing articles? Or because it's so complicated do we just stick with one paper at a time?
 

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Having spent a lot of time chasing links there are a lot of rabbit holes to go down and it's surprising where one ends up. :/

Like cryptic sponges depending on thier microbial simbionts may be processing DOC (carbon dosing) 1000X faster than the bacterioplankton that's removed by skimmers which would only remove what has hydrophobic qualities and the type and quantity of DOC influences the kinds of bacterioplankton and influences the individual coral microbiomes which the corals themselves are manipulating and depending on the innate immune system which available research suggests varies not at the species but genotype level so shifts in the microbiomes may or may not be causing coral diseases.

Having a list of prefixes with deifinitions seems a good way to start but what about cross refferencing articles? Or because it's so complicated do we just stick with one paper at a time?
Not to mention if you find multiple papers, each will contradict another. Lol
I see people quote abstracts, but oftentimes, the "meat" of the paper will shed light on how bogus or accurate a paper may be.
 

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From what I've seen contradictions usually mean the subject is a lot more complicated. That's why it seems a good idea to link to related papers to get a more complete picture. Some research though probably links dozens of not hundreds of papers making a very complex picture not easily presented.

One example would be a paper by Yamashiro, 1995 which has been used by some to justify very low PO4 levels and a later paper by Marshal and Clode2002. The the later paper using a different methodology raised what seems to me serious questions about the methodology used in the first paper saying "bisphosphonate may not inhibit formation of amorphous calcium carbonate and that the inhibition of calcification is possibly illusory". Just those two papers could be argued for or against ultra low PO4 but Dunn, et al 2012, and the multiple papers by Southampton Univeristy Wiedenmann, et al, 2012 , Rosset, et al, 2015, Rosset, et al, 2017, pretty well show keeping PO4 at levels still occasionally recommended compromises corals.

Comparing PO4 and Dissolved Organic Carbon (DOC, aka carbon dosing) however seems to me like comparing high school chemistry with post doc level chemistry. One "contradiction" I've seen is how it's processed by sponges with de Goeij, 2009 showing sponges consuming DOC and then releasing high levels detritus and McMurray, et al, not finding much detritus release by the sponges they looked at that did consume DOC. McMurry, also found DOC consumption varied according to the number of microbial simbionts the sponge hosted. On the face of it is seems like a contradiction but different species were looked at by the researchers so the papers together show a more complicated picture of what's happening than either by themselves.
 

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From what I've seen contradictions usually mean the subject is a lot more complicated. That's why it seems a good idea to link to related papers to get a more complete picture. Some research though probably links dozens of not hundreds of papers making a very complex picture not easily presented.

One example would be a paper by Yamashiro, 1995 which has been used by some to justify very low PO4 levels and a later paper by Marshal and Clode2002. The the later paper using a different methodology raised what seems to me serious questions about the methodology used in the first paper saying "bisphosphonate may not inhibit formation of amorphous calcium carbonate and that the inhibition of calcification is possibly illusory". Just those two papers could be argued for or against ultra low PO4 but Dunn, et al 2012, and the multiple papers by Southampton Univeristy Wiedenmann, et al, 2012 , Rosset, et al, 2015, Rosset, et al, 2017, pretty well show keeping PO4 at levels still occasionally recommended compromises corals.

Comparing PO4 and Dissolved Organic Carbon (DOC, aka carbon dosing) however seems to me like comparing high school chemistry with post doc level chemistry. One "contradiction" I've seen is how it's processed by sponges with de Goeij, 2009 showing sponges consuming DOC and then releasing high levels detritus and McMurray, et al, not finding much detritus release by the sponges they looked at that did consume DOC. McMurry, also found DOC consumption varied according to the number of microbial simbionts the sponge hosted. On the face of it is seems like a contradiction but different species were looked at by the researchers so the papers together show a more complicated picture of what's happening than either by themselves.
And at the end of rhe day, most studies involve poccilipora. Who TF cares about that brown weed? 🤣
 

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From what I've seen contradictions usually mean the subject is a lot more complicated. That's why it seems a good idea to link to related papers to get a more complete picture. Some research though probably links dozens of not hundreds of papers making a very complex picture not easily presented.
With regards to fish diseases & treatments, it sucks that almost all studies are done on “food fish” and NOT on ornamentals. This leads to postulation until a hobbyist does some experimentation to lend weight to it. This becomes even more difficult to confirm when the assumption is based on in vitro experimentation. I’m also a little leery of Chinese peer reviewed studies which may (or may not) be influenced by their govt.
 
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