How To Quarantine

Clark Griswold

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@Humblefish so I've completed my 30 days of copper + Metroplex for the 1st 14 days. I've been trying to move on to "deworming" phase with Prazi but I can't seem to get this rid of this copper in the water. I did a 50% water change, added some ChemiPure Blue Nano to remove the copper. Tested after 24 hours and it was still at 1.0 ppm. Added another bag of just carbon to the ChemiPure. Tested 18 hours later and copper is 0.96 ppm.

I'm very confused by this. Why isn't the carbon and ChemiPure removing the copper? I'm really trying to get all the copper out as much as possible as my fish have been in it for 36 days 30 days at 2.4-2.6. My flame angel seems to be having what I'm guessing is copper overexposure has like this white almost burn look around on of his eyes kind of like a possible bacterial infection.

I'm just perplexed why the copper levels won't go down and don't want to add more meds until I get it out. Anything else I can do beside an almost 100% water change?

Thank you as always.
 

ru4serious

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If using just 1 QT here is what I would do:
  1. Treat for 30 days in copper: Copper treatment
  2. After the 30 days are up, perform large water changes or use Cuprisorb / Polyfilter to remove all the copper from the water.
  3. Once the copper is all out begin a 2 week countdown to observe the fish to be sure nothing slipped thru the cracks.
  4. During the 2 week observation period treat with prazi in order to deworm: Praziquantel
So I can drop a couple black mollies in the qt after the 30 day treatment and the copper has been removed. Can they handle prozi
 

Jessican

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LFS has it gonna go pickup. Quick question does this mostly only work on copper or should I get two and use to remove Prazi too between doses. Thanks!
Cuprisorb is specifically for removing copper, and may also remove some other heavy metals: https://www.seachem.com/cuprisorb.php

For removing prazi, I'd use carbon. You could also use a Poly-Filter, which will help with both copper and prazi.
 

Clark Griswold

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Cuprisorb is specifically for removing copper, and may also remove some other heavy metals: https://www.seachem.com/cuprisorb.php

For removing prazi, I'd use carbon. You could also use a Poly-Filter, which will help with both copper and prazi.

Thank you Jessica. Got some Cuprisorb and some Poly filter. If that doesn't remove I guess I'll just do a massive water change. Much appreciate your help. You rock!
 

Jessican

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Thanks for the help, and one more , does raising the temperature in the qt actually speed the life cycle if parasites
Higher temps do speed up the lifecycle (hence why ich’s fallow period can be shortened to 6 weeks if the DT temp is kept at 80.6F or higher), but I personally wouldn’t use this as a shortcut to QT. My understanding of the higher temp is that it speeds up the tomont stage, but that’s not what we’re concerned about in QT. @Humblefish will have to weigh in with his thoughts on how temp could potentially change the QT process and if it affects the trophont stage or not.
 

Humblefish

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I would only raise temp to 80.6F to speed up the fallow period, or for quarantining corals/inverts. I WOULD NOT raise temp much above 78F in a Fish QT because there is less available oxygen in the water at higher temperature. Medications will also deplete O2, so you ideally want to apply these in cooler water where oxygen becomes more saturated.

And just to reiterate what @Jessican has already said: Cuprisorb or using a poly filter is the more effective way to remove copper from the water. Running carbon is only minimally effective for removing copper.
 
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