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Flukes in the gills are more dangerous than skin flukes.


Sometimes gill flukes are visible after a FW dip, sometimes not.


I would probably try Prazipro this time around before General Cure. The former contains a higher concentration of praziquantel (2.5 mg/L) than GC (2.0 mg/L). Which makes it slightly more effective at eliminating Prazi resistant flukes.
After treating with PraziPro a "haze" can be seen in the tank ie. you can see it reflecting off the white PVC. Is this common and a byproduct of the Prazi treatment? I've seen it with both API GC and PraziPro.
 

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After treating with PraziPro a "haze" can be seen in the tank ie. you can see it reflecting off the white PVC. Is this common and a byproduct of the Prazi treatment? I've seen it with both API GC and PraziPro.
Most likely a bacterial bloom from the solubilizing agent (alcohol) Prazipro uses. I would increase gas exchange by cranking up an air stone or pointing a powerhead towards the surface of the water.
 
Most likely a bacterial bloom from the solubilizing agent (alcohol) Prazipro uses. I would increase gas exchange by cranking up an air stone or pointing a powerhead towards the surface of the water.
I have kept the gas exchange to a "max" with the HOB and powerheads churning the surface and the air stone on full time.

Is this a condition to be concerned about other than the fact that it can deplete O2 in the water?
 

Two new fish to qt, had a friend who was able to grab thia yellow eye khole tang and blue tang from the wholesaler for me just as hawaii closed.

They are currently in the qt with 1ppm copper and the first dose of metro.

This is the qt schedule I had in mind based @Dierks post on the first few pages of the thread. Except I start the gc laces food and metro from day 1. Any input is welcome. With my last go around when I pulled the tank apart.to clean it after almost killing the Atl tang I found what looked like a bunch of undiluted general.cure under the pvc pipes and in the power filter has anyone seen this before. Have triple airation this time around and the power filter.

Copper ia raised from day one to 5 to 2.0ppm confirmed with hanna checker

Day 1 - Metro -- Start Feeding API GC Lased food
Day 3 - API GC
Day 5- Metro
Day 7 - Metro -- Last feeding of API GC Lased food
Day 9 - API GC
Day 11 - Metro
Day 20-22ish - Pull out of copper AS LONG AS IT HAS STAYED ABOVE 2.0


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I would treat (above 2.0) for a full 30 days if you are using just 1 QT.

About the undissolved GC, it's best to mix it in a cup before dosing. Sometimes you have to add a drop of vodka or Isopropyl alcohol to get it to fully dissolve. Or DMSO works best IME: https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/dmso-16-fl-oz
any percentage isoprophyl alcohol ? I have a bunch of the 70% stuff ran out of the 99% stuff early on in the pandemic -.- I have a second qt tank I use as a observation tank once the fish are pulled out of the first.
 
You can do 2 rounds of Prazipro (6 days apart) in the same tank without transferring. :Thumbs_up_green:

I would only treat with Prazipro at this time, to see how it goes.
Tomorrow will be day 6, planning on 25% WC and then 2nd treatment with PraziPro per the marineparasites.com schedule. However, on that site it states:

"The assumption for the use of this program is that an initial bath treatment (on day 1) kills 100% of attached parasite stages on stock."

I did not perform this FW bath, is that a problem?

Regarding status of my fish, I have not observed the Orange Clown scratching anymore, however, it and one of the others will go to the surface for air occasionally. Perhaps this is a side affect of low Oxygen in the tank? I did upload that video a couple days ago with what looked like "haze" in the QT, so possibly a bacterial bloom is brining the O2 levels down? I do have the airstone, powerhead and HOB churning the surface full time. Also, I assume white lights would cause a bacterial bloom to get worse so I have kept them off as much as possible, running blue lights during the day.

These are pictures I took today. The white (what looks like skin hangning off of the body) is only really visible when taken with a good camera and flash.

If Velvet/Ich/Brook/Uronema were at play, would they have manifested themselves already since the fish have been in this tank now for 12 days?

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any percentage isoprophyl alcohol ? I have a bunch of the 70% stuff ran out of the 99% stuff early on in the pandemic -.- I have a second qt tank I use as a observation tank once the fish are pulled out of the first.
70% should be fine, but just a drop or two.
 

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I did not perform this FW bath, is that a problem?

Regarding status of my fish, I have not observed the Orange Clown scratching anymore, however, it and one of the others will go to the surface for air occasionally. Perhaps this is a side affect of low Oxygen in the tank? I did upload that video a couple days ago with what looked like "haze" in the QT, so possibly a bacterial bloom is brining the O2 levels down? I do have the airstone, powerhead and HOB churning the surface full time. Also, I assume white lights would cause a bacterial bloom to get worse so I have kept them off as much as possible, running blue lights during the day.
Dosing prazi (or fenbendazole) can be used in lieu of the FW dip. (y)

How hazy is the QT currently??

These are pictures I took today. The white (what looks like skin hangning off of the body) is only really visible when taken with a good camera and flash.

If Velvet/Ich/Brook/Uronema were at play, would they have manifested themselves already since the fish have been in this tank now for 12 days?
Clownfish are fairly resistant to Ich, but Velvet or Brook would have taken out the fish by now.
 
keep it heavily airated, do you plan to pull them from the tank to a second qt? if not you may want to do a nice water change once the treatment is done, it happends to me when I dose GC or Prazi
Running an airstone, HOB filter and power head towards the water surface for gas exchange.

This was the 2nd QT (sterile), so there was not a plan for a third (although that could happen if necessary).

I will most definitely be doing some good WC's post treatment as I think they'll be in this QT for at least several more weeks.
 

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would the same apply to metro, should I dilute it in tankj water and alcohol prior to adding?
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Running an airstone, HOB filter and power head towards the water surface for gas exchange.

This was the 2nd QT (sterile), so there was not a plan for a third (although that could happen if necessary).

I will most definitely be doing some good WC's post treatment as I think they'll be in this QT for at least several more weeks.
That cloudiness could be due to a bacterial bloom which is consuming some of the O2 in the water. Do you happen to have a small diatom filter to clear it?
 
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