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Humblefish

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Some of their mods are very knowledgable (evolved), but some will only ever be known for being a R2R moderator. They spend more time babysitting likes & comments than actually helping people with their aquarium problems. When I quit staff there, I made sure to remind them all of that. I only ever heard back from 2 mods from that day forward, unless I count getting lectures from D&D, so I guess my brutal honesty didn't make me Mr. Popular. 🤬
 

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You can’t be popular there if you don’t tow the party line, point things out, or question arbitrary decisions.
Rev should just start sending this out when that happens.
 

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it took them a while but they finally got me too. Can’t post without approval. LOL
When I decided that I wanted my "partner member" badge removed (because I was embarrassed that I gave them money), I wasn't sure who to write to so I picked a random mod. Turns out that I picked the same guy you are talking to.

I hope he is adding things up at this point.
 

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When I decided that I wanted my "partner member" badge removed (because I was embarrassed that I gave them money), I wasn't sure who to write to so I picked a random mod. Turns out that I picked the same guy you are talking to.

I hope he is adding things up at this point.
I wrote David and asked for a refund. After two requests, he gave me a refund.
 

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I get that sponsors may not want to leave r2r - what if sponsors that stayed on Reef@Reef also publicly supported LGBTQ? The landing page from reef2reef could feature LGBTQ info, or links, "We support LGBTQ reefers", and/or a link to the petition. What, is r2r gonna refund a sponsor's fee and fire them as a sponsor?

What other angles can we think of in regards to what sponsors can do proactively?
 

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What about Rainbow Reefers buying a sponsorship on R2R?
He would just return their money or not process the payment. I also think he would delete any sponsors' posts regarding LGBTQ as violating the TOS.

Basically, he's gonna try waiting this out and hoping it eventually goes away because that's always worked in the past. So long as sponsors are paying and members are posting, he's not really negative affected by any of this.
 

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He would just return their money or not process the payment. I also think he would delete any sponsors' posts regarding LGBTQ as violating the TOS.

Basically, he's gonna try waiting this out and hoping it eventually goes away because that's always worked in the past. So long as sponsors are paying and members are posting, he's not really negative affected by any of this.
Not on r2r, on their own sites.
 

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Not on r2r, on their own sites.
Unfortunately, out of the 16 emails I wrote, only BRS and Reed Mariculture(Reef Nutrition) replied to say they were forwarding my email to the appropriate department.

I do understand this will take time and I should not expect a rapid response due to the holidays and everyone is just winding things up again. I hope by February we can start seeing some responses to our emails.
 

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I did not get a reply from rev until I notified him I was going to contest with PayPal, my credit card, and take his ass to court if needed.

With censoring LGBT members, he did not follow what he advertised to us.
It’s not just censoring the LGBTQ members. It’s anything he doesn’t agree with. You can’t say anything negative about a sponsor but can trash any company that isn’t. You can’t mention atheism but are welcome to participate in the OFFICIAL prayer thread. Don’t be LGBTQ in reefing but feel free to discuss being a woman in reefing. And above all don’t dare ever question the decisions of the mods or admin publicly (or in private) or they will censor your every move. Oh, And the blatant cowardice of posting a response to problems in a locked thread so no one can reply to it. Hiding who’s viewing threads so they can’t tell you are watching them, and sanitizing everything as rapidly as possible to prevent the community at large from seeing what’s really going on.
He should just call it what it is. A conservative Christian reefing, sales, and advertising forum.
 

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Unfortunately, out of the 16 emails I wrote, only BRS and Reed Mariculture(Reef Nutrition) replied to say they were forwarding my email to the appropriate department.

I do understand this will take time and I should not expect a rapid response due to the holidays and everyone is just winding things up again. I hope by February we can start seeing some responses to our emails.
It definitely will take time for The larger sponsors and the smaller ones that rely heavily on R2R for sales and exposure. They make a lot of money because of R2R. They won’t want to burn that bridge or risk that relationship until they see it as a systematic on going problem then is getting worse, and not a few isolated instances. Given time, exposure and persistence, many of them will start to see it for what it really is and start to step back from being associated with it.
 

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Unfortunately, out of the 16 emails I wrote, only BRS and Reed Mariculture(Reef Nutrition) replied to say they were forwarding my email to the appropriate department.

I do understand this will take time and I should not expect a rapid response due to the holidays and everyone is just winding things up again. I hope by February we can start seeing some responses to our emails.
You can add AquaIllumination to that list! Do you have screenshots of Reef Nutrition and BRS responding and can share?

Here's the spreadsheet (well, a doc that links to the spreadsheet because SOMEBODY decided to conflate my sheet with doxxing)

If anybody's got screenshots of "I will forward this to management" or "I'm not going to take action" or "I'm going to take action" please feel free to PM them to me, so I can update the spreadsheet!
 
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