Suspected flukes help please !

[Colin]

Hi, I hope someone can help. I’ve had a hippo tang for 3 weeks which I’ve seen scratching on the rocks occasionally (at least once a day). I put this down to tang behaviour as it was infrequent and looks healthy and is eating . I’ve introduced a yellow tang a week ago and have just noticed this yellow tang is doing it occasionally as well so I’m thinking the blue tang had brought flukes in. I want to treat the DT with prazi as I can’t catch them but will my wrasses tolerate it?
I have a china wrasse, silver belly wrasse, radiant wrasse and a tarimind wrasse. Any help would be appreciated . Thanks

 

[Vincelovesfish]

Is it possible to get a video of his scratching? Is it more focused on the gills or scratching everywhere? Any dots or bumps on the tang? Any other scratching behaviors from other fish?

treating with prazi in a dt isn’t very effective due to the bio degredation of meds. Meaning the biofilm heavily affects the efficacy of prazi. I didn’t have good luck in my dt dosing prazi. If you are to dose you should use pharma grade powdered prazi and dissolve it with DMSO. It will stink the whole room up. You should also dose 4 times on day 1,3,5,7. It’s imperative to heavily aerate the water. I left the skimmer in and took the collection cup off. Be prepared for a bacterial bloom that will deplete oxygen saturation. I had 2 leopard wrasses and a tamrin wrasse in my dt. It’s important to account for water displacement from rock, sand, etc when measuring how much to dose.

 

[Big G]

Prazi aggressively grabs O2 from the water. If you get a good sized powerhead, set down into the tank, aimed up towards the surface so it is "actively" rippling the water's surface, you'll get good exchange of oxygen and avoid potential problems. Can also add an air stone or two helping to oxygenate the system.

 

[Colin]

Thanks for that, I’ve got maxspect gyre 6inches off the top of the water , I’m going to take the skimmer cup off and have air stones. Have you got any advice regarding the wrasses? . Can they tolerate it? Do you think that will be enough oxygen? Thanks again

 

[Colin]

Is it possible to get a video of his scratching? Is it more focused on the gills or scratching everywhere? Any dots or bumps on the tang? Any other scratching behaviors from other fish?

treating with prazi in a dt isn’t very effective due to the bio degredation of meds. Meaning the biofilm heavily affects the efficacy of prazi. I didn’t have good luck in my dt dosing prazi. If you are to dose you should use pharma grade powdered prazi and dissolve it with DMSO. It will stink the whole room up. You should also dose 4 times on day 1,3,5,7. It’s imperative to heavily aerate the water. I left the skimmer in and took the collection cup off. Be prepared for a bacterial bloom that will deplete oxygen saturation. I had 2 leopard wrasses and a tamrin wrasse in my dt. It’s important to account for water displacement from rock, sand, etc when measuring how much to dose.

Is it possible to get a video of his scratching? Is it more focused on the gills or scratching everywhere? Any dots or bumps on the tang? Any other scratching behaviors from other fish?

treating with prazi in a dt isn’t very effective due to the bio degredation of meds. Meaning the biofilm heavily affects the efficacy of prazi. I didn’t have good luck in my dt dosing prazi. If you are to dose you should use pharma grade powdered prazi and dissolve it with DMSO. It will stink the whole room up. You should also dose 4 times on day 1,3,5,7. It’s imperative to heavily aerate the water. I left the skimmer in and took the collection cup off. Be prepared for a bacterial bloom that will deplete oxygen saturation. I had 2 leopard wrasses and a tamrin wrasse in my dt. It’s important to account for water displacement from rock, sand, etc when measuring how much to dose.

Hi Vince, so sorry missed your reply! I have attached a video. There’s no other signs and looks like it is the gills but let me know what you think when you have watched the video. The yellow tang has done the same thing a couple of times. I have fluksolve which I assume powered praxi ) so should I use this instead? Thanks for your help!

 

[Big G]

Thanks for that, I’ve got maxspect gyre 6inches off the top of the water , I’m going to take the skimmer cup off and have air stones. Have you got any advice regarding the wrasses? . Can they tolerate it? Do you think that will be enough oxygen? Thanks again

Generally speaking, wrasses can and do usually tolerate using Prazi as long as the O2 is seriously addressed. Boosting the O2 "before" dosing is the key, as well as during and after the treatment. You want to super load the water column with O2.

 

[Colin]

Thanks for your help-much appreciated. I will make sure there’s enough oxygen .

 

[Dierks]

I have very few issues with Prazi besides what we discussed above. You will know if you are treating the right thing as soon as you add the prazi as the fish will go a bit crazy if they have flukes.

 

[Colin]

Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I’ve just put the first dose in so fingers crossed!

 

[Dierks]

Did you see any reaction when you dosed?

 

[Colin]

Hi, it was night time but the tangs are more active I think so hopefully it is flukes and nothing else . I’ll see what tomorrow brings ! I’m just hoping the wrasses are up in the morning. I’ll let you know . Thanks again

 

[Colin]

Update : it’s been 22 hours , the Hippo tang is still rubbing a little and one of the wrasses seems to be diving at the sand more. All are ok but hope I haven’t under dosed. Will it still work to some degree if I have slightly under dosed? I’ve used flukesolve . Thanks!

 

[Vincelovesfish]

Are you able to catch maybe the hippo and do a fw dip? We can use that as a diagnostic to see if this is flukes or something else.

How To - Freshwater Dip

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[hollow6210]

Figured I'd tag along with this thread vice starting my own since it's a similar issue. Royal gramma has been flashing against sand fairly regularly, focusing on the gills and appetite is inconsistent. This morning it was lodged behind the HOB filter and then moved to the spot in the rocks (see pic). Starting two days ago the tailspot blenny started flashing against rocks in gill area and is breathing rapidly (vid). From reading through, flukes seem to be the best fit since there are no external spots or anything--that's my best guess anyway. Fortunately I don't have any coral yet--moved the hermit crabs to isolation this afternoon and I'm planning on dosing 3 packs of API GC later this afternoon. 29 gallon tank with a 2.5 gallon HOB refugium.

 

[Colin]

Just thought I’d give an update . Doing a water change now before the next dose. Hippo tang doing much better (just scratched a little yesterday) . Yellow tang only scratched once . I’m going to do a second dose tomorrow. Skimmer cup been off but there was foam with some waste at the bubble trap. Hope this hasn’t weakened the flukesolve (UK version of prazi pro and a bit weaker). I used this as I was a little worried about the wrasse. I’ll let you know how I get on.

 

[hollow6210]

Colin, how did you dose fluksolve? Seems like it's a UK thing and the website says 10grams for 550 gallons.

 

[Humblefish]

@Colin

@Salmo Si might also know

 

[Colin]

Hi it’s 1 gram per 250 litres but flukesolve is a little weaker , I’m not sure which one you are using. I know I have under dosed but won’t on my next one tonight. It’s been 5 days since the first dose. I’ve done a water change and put carbon in for a day and switched the skimmer back on just for a day before I dose again. I’ve left the air stones running throughout I got advice off this forum as well as I was worried about the wrasses. Good luck !

 

[hollow6210]

I wasn't so lucky--lost royal gramma this morning. Also lost a black clown--not sure why since it was eating well and wasn't exhibiting symptoms. The clown was stuck to power head this morning and the gramma was floating on the bottom. On the upside, the tailspot blenny has been more active today. Dosing API GC again tomorrow afternoon.

 

[Humblefish]

I wasn't so lucky--lost royal gramma this morning. Also lost a black clown--not sure why since it was eating well and wasn't exhibiting symptoms. The clown was stuck to power head this morning and the gramma was floating on the bottom. On the upside, the tailspot blenny has been more active today. Dosing API GC again tomorrow afternoon.