Hopefully, something came out of the rambling that we did for the last couple of hours. Sorry, it ran so late, happens every single time we chat.
Intermediate Us vs Uronema
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I could have stayed there all night lol! When you love something you love talking about it. I’m will switch me attention to your store and know that I’m here to test thing out as well! I’m in the healthcare field so I’m all about this stuff and generating new knowledge.
DexterB
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You both did an awesome job!
Glad it ran late- whole exchange was interesting. So much good info for everyone.
We appreciate you both so much!
jessawyer
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Okay, thank you! Both of my fish lasted for the full 30 mins without seeming lethargic so I'm crossing my fingers that they'll pull through.
We find that some fish dont have any issues at all - others seem to be a bit more sensitive. We also have found that they seem to get more sensitive to the bath every time you do it so don't be shocked if the next bath they can only go 25 minutes esc... Great first bath though!
Please report back with the fish you are doing it on and the results as well if you find the opportunity! We would love to gather as much info as we can
jessawyer
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Wanted to check in and see what the next steps are after the three TTO baths? History - It's been about 10 days since I noticed a red band on my chromis. For the first few days before I found this thread I was treating the water with metroplex and malachite green and feeding food with metro in it. Then I switched over to the TTO bath regimen and just finished my third bath this evening. How do I know if the chromis is on the mend or not? The red band does look a little bigger and more external now (when I first noticed it, it looked under the surface). But it's not super easy to tell with the blue water from the methylene blue. The fish is still eating and acting normally, has been this entire time. Thanks for your help!We find that some fish dont have any issues at all - others seem to be a bit more sensitive. We also have found that they seem to get more sensitive to the bath every time you do it so don't be shocked if the next bath they can only go 25 minutes esc... Great first bath though!
Please report back with the fish you are doing it on and the results as well if you find the opportunity! We would love to gather as much info as we can
Observation -- With something like Chromis (Pretty much the most susceptible fish to this disease) you should observe for a long while. I would say a good 3 weeks... I would also separate out any fish that have any sort of redness you describe. If it's on the exterior of the fish the Tea Tree Oil has an opportunity to treat, but if it's internal nothing will save the fish. If you have any fish that show red sores externally I would strongly suggest that you do another bath fo the other fish that are clean as they head into a clean fresh tank.
Do you have any pictures?
jessawyer
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This was the chromis before I started the TTO baths. It was never in my DT. I brought it home and placed it in a QT. There was a royal gramma in the QT with him originally. I've since moved the gramma to its own tank so now I have two QT tanks going. The gramma has also been receiving treatment even though I haven't seen anything on it yet. Now that the tank water is blue it's hard for me to get a good look at what's going on with either one of them. Some people have said that uronema is a quick killer and this chromis should be dead by now after 10 days of having a red band. I'm not sure if all the medications I'm trying are just delaying the inevitable?
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So is the band better or worse? It does look like the typical Uronema and this treatment t could have simply prolonged him. But I would say that in this picture it looks to be at the surface so it should have taken the treatment. The fish will always have missing scales there as well. If you are able to get pictures of the Chromis now I would be very interested in seeing them. Good call on treating your Gramma alongside your other fish but keeping him in his own tank. Very smart.
Trust me... I hear you, people have told me that I shouldnt be able to do anything about this disease since I started, I refused to believe that and have dug for things that would work... So dont worry about what others are saying as this is at the very forefront of treating this disease with this treatment protocol, there are still a million questions that need to be answered but really things are looking promising. The problem is I don't have all the answers so I am hopeful for good documentation of these things and maybe all together we can crack this code.
Have you been treated with any antibiotics by chance to see if the red band simply needs to heal? The MB should also be helping with this but isn't a true antibiotic like the ones on this list:
Antibiotics
"Antibiotics, in and of themselves, do not cure a fish. Antibiotics merely control the population growth of bacteria in a fish long enough for its immune system to eliminate them." Antibiotic treatment (updated 1-12-23) What It Treats: Bacterial infections, which are oftentimes “secondary” to...
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jessawyer
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I've been dosing the QT tanks with kanaplex+metro+methylene blue. I think I have some Maracyn 2 on hand. Should I use that?
Dumb question but after the TTO baths are you placing the chromis in a new tank?
jessawyer
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Not a dumb question and I am not because I don't have two more empty tanks (I already have two QT tanks for two fish). That's why I'm dosing both tanks with metro and kana after the baths. Probably need to introduce another antibiotic into the mix based on what Dierks said. Obviously it's less than ideal but I'm working the best I can with what I've got. 🤷♀️ If it seems like both fish are really on the mend and getting healthier then I'll try transferring to a new tank before going into my DT. This disease is a pain in the a** to try and overcome!!!!
Nope that is perfect I dont know if I would add another one -- If it was bacterial you would think it should be getting better. We just want to close up that sore asap really.
Tell me about it, been after this thing for years and still don't know if we have the answer... Seems like we are on the right track but nothing we have can really get past the blood-brain barrier that I am aware of.
Do you trhink you can set up your tank so you could so a 100% water change while they go through one more bath? You could do the bath and dump the water if you have the water proper before hand. Try and wipe the tank out as well as you can. Or you could also place them ion a 5-gallon bucket while you work on cleaning the tank so you can have a "New tank" they can go into. I just worry about reinfection when we are speaking of chromis.
If wse can somehow figure out how to treat Chromis this treatment should work for just about every fish out there. Uronema sucks...
jessawyer
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Yes, I'll do that. I've been doing 60% water changes after each bath just to clear things out a little bit but I know that's also less than ideal. LOL. I'll do another bath tomorrow and clear out both tanks while they're each in the bath. We have an RODI system so I can have the water prepped beforehand.
Awesome snap a picture of that Chromis as well while you have clean water.
Agreed a couple of 5 gallon buckets, heaters, and cheap pumps would get the job done.
jessawyer
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Even with everything cheap that would all cost a lot more money than the chromis did! LOL. I'm honestly doing the best I can to save this fish and I'm also cautious about not potentially contaminating more and more equipment. Needing two QTs set up definitely isn't making things easier, which is now a lesson to not bring home and QT two fish together, just one at a time. But I really want a chromis in my tank so I don't want to give up even in less than ideal QT conditions.
Totally get it good luck!