Do you happen to have any leads for this as I would be very interested in reading about this as I don't think I have seen this in any of my studies on the drug?
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Vette67
Doing this reef thing since 1997
I am just going by what Joe said. I have no personal knowledge of whether or not fenbend affects their gills. And I have not read it elsewhere, either. So if I made an assumption, I apologize.
I can't remember exactly where I saw it. Noga's book, maybe? It didn't say wrasses specifically, but it mentioned dosing it in a filter sock or something. It was in a from a more reputable source, but I jist don't have the time to dig that back up. I'm terrible about saving pdf's to re-read later.
Vette67
Doing this reef thing since 1997
Well, now that the deaths have tapered off, this fenbend is definitely doing the job I hired it to do. The star polyp is really retracting. The strands are getting a lot thinner. And still zero on the ammonia alert badge. The skimmer seems to be producing more foam (not sure of its content), but that is the only side effect (besides the initial deaths). Like I said before, it might be too high of a cost, but it’s working…
Vette67
Doing this reef thing since 1997
Before fenbendazole:
And after fenbendazole (yes, there actually was an acropora colony under all that star polyp). But this time my purple tang photo bombed, instead of the hippo. I tried to get the same photo as before.
So like I said, the fenbend is doing a good job at killing the star polyp. It shrinks more and more each week. To the point where I doubt it could come back now. But I’m still going to wait a couple / few more weeks before I start running carbon and doing water changes to try to remove the fenbend from my system.
And after fenbendazole (yes, there actually was an acropora colony under all that star polyp). But this time my purple tang photo bombed, instead of the hippo. I tried to get the same photo as before.
So like I said, the fenbend is doing a good job at killing the star polyp. It shrinks more and more each week. To the point where I doubt it could come back now. But I’m still going to wait a couple / few more weeks before I start running carbon and doing water changes to try to remove the fenbend from my system.
Flippers4pups
Fins up since 1993!
It was very evasive and destructive in your system! I can understand why you went that route.
I have some in my system, but it's kept to one rock away from everything.
Uh oh, secret bubble alage was hiding!!
Vette67
Doing this reef thing since 1997
Yeah, it’s no secret that I have valonia. My foxface used to take care of it all, but apparently didn’t see inside that acro colony. I’m definitely going to have to get another rabbit fish.
Been trying to convince this convict tang to eat bubble alage. But he's just not into it. Lmao
Vette67
Doing this reef thing since 1997
You only need to convince him that he needs to be in my tank! And bring along his chalk bass, schooling bannerfish and blue lined rabbit fish brothers!
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Vette67
Doing this reef thing since 1997
Very interesting. And disappointing. It appears that some of the star polyp is returning. It is significantly reduced, but there are several spots where I can see the polyps sprouting again. I added .34 gram first time around, so I’m going to try a half dose, around .15 gram dissolved in DMSO again. I was not expecting this , but some of the fenbend must have gotten skimmed out or it breaks down over time? I’m not sure. So here goes round 2.
To be fair you had one heck of a case on your hands! Will be interesting to see if this will be the knockout blow!
Vette67
Doing this reef thing since 1997
One heck of an infestation for sure. I did end up weighing out .16 gram and added it. But shortly after I added it, my halides shut off, which also causes the polyp to retract. I’ll see tomorrow if it is really down for the count again. I expect it will be.
I am sure hoping this is the knockout blow. But if I have to, I’ll keep adding half doses. I’m already in this far, I’m not giving up until I win!
Vette67
Doing this reef thing since 1997
Well, so far, so good. I almost can’t tell where that star polyp was sprouting up from before. So this second half dose is doing the trick. I’ll just have to wait a few more weeks to make sure it continues to die.
And in the meantime, my 40 gallon refugium is running fine. No filtration. Nothing but a power head and a heater. Who needs all those fancy additives and controllers? It’s been off line running solo for about ~4 weeks now. All I do is add makeup water, when I remember. All of the critters (starfish, snails, urchins) are fine. Must be the giant ball of chaeto keeping things going.
I will say, my skimmer is making some of the stinkiest skimmate I have ever smelled. Must be what dying star polyp smells like! I’m so glad I have my skimmer air discharging outside. I might not be able to stand my basement if the smell was discharged into my house. I’m going to make it smell worse and turn on the ozone for a bit.
And in the meantime, my 40 gallon refugium is running fine. No filtration. Nothing but a power head and a heater. Who needs all those fancy additives and controllers? It’s been off line running solo for about ~4 weeks now. All I do is add makeup water, when I remember. All of the critters (starfish, snails, urchins) are fine. Must be the giant ball of chaeto keeping things going.
I will say, my skimmer is making some of the stinkiest skimmate I have ever smelled. Must be what dying star polyp smells like! I’m so glad I have my skimmer air discharging outside. I might not be able to stand my basement if the smell was discharged into my house. I’m going to make it smell worse and turn on the ozone for a bit.
All in all good news here! Like to hear it!
Ozone may negatively react with the fenben. There was a paper I read that using ozone to "burn off" chloroquine caused extreme mortality in a public aquarium.
Flippers4pups
Fins up since 1993!
Did it cause it to intensify?
Vette67
Doing this reef thing since 1997
I didn’t notice any ill effects from leaving the ozone on. But I did turn it off. It was on for about 24 hours. I was just thinking it would be a good way to break down some of the organics left from the decomposing star polyp. But I don’t want to make things worse if it reacts with the fenbend.
Likely converted it to a toxic form. Idk it didn't go into detail, and you can't really test for chloroquine or secondary metabolites easily.