Vitamins & Herbal Remedies

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Humblefish

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Vitamins & Herbal Remedies

What It Treats
Used to boost a fish’s immune system, supplement dietary deficiencies, promote healing and improve overall health.

How To TreatThe following are examples of vitamin supplements in which fish food can be soaked: Selcon, Zoecon, Vita-chem, Seachem Vitality, Brightwell Aquatics Vitamarin-M & AminOmega, Aquaforest Fish V.

DIY options include: Vitamins A, C, E; folic acid; amino acids; Omega 3 & 6 fish oil; Krill oil. Since all of these are “reef safe” substances, you can just saturate food with them or use Seachem Focus to bind them to the food. Also, probiotics are very important for your fish’s digestive system. Probiotic Marine Formula and LRS Foods are two options for providing probiotics.

I once saw a forum thread (with pictures) of a Purple Tang with a bad case of HLLE, where the condition was completely reversed by using Selcon & Zoecon on alternating days; in addition to feeding nori. The value of feeding nori cannot be overstated, as it contains high levels of iodine and fiber. In addition, the use of vitamins and nori is key to alleviating symptoms of viruses in fish, such as Lymphocystis. All of the above will aid in boosting your fishes’ immune systems. Soaking food in garlic extract may or may not be useful, except that it does seem to stimulate appetite in new fish. (Also read: Possible cure for Viruses like Lympho)

Beta-glucan: This an immunostimulant recommended by our very own @Big G (and backed up by scientific research.) The below information has been posted with his permission:
This is the one I use for both our fish are for my wife and I. I get it from Amazon. For the fish I make "fish smoothies" where I use a variety of frozen fish food cubes, about 6-8 one of each type. Place into a dish. Put dish into the fridge to allow the cubes to "slump." Pour off or strain excess liquid (it will spike your phosphates, nitrates). Then add a drop or two of Selcon and half a capsule of BG. Add a drop or two of RO as needed to make the mix to the consistency you like. The mix will stay good in the fridge for a few days.

Results for fish: enhanced colors on my wrasses and anthias. My Foxface was a Petco rescue. Poor fish had velvet and lympho that would not go away and poor coloration. Since dosing with BG colors are better, fish is more active and less skittish, and no lympho for over two years.

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The “pea trick” is something I want to briefly touch upon. A fish with constipation may look similar to one with a swim bladder disorder.
:eek:
The latter is difficult to treat, so always try the “pea trick” before considering a venting procedure. Just feed 1 or 2 peeled boiled green peas (same kind you & I eat) for a few days. It is thought that the fiber contained in the peas help to “push things out.”
;)


There are a slew of herbal remedies on the market and some hobbyists believe that these will “cure” their fish or tank of some disease. Although they are rarely capable of 100% eradication, these remedies may help manage the symptoms of a disease – sometimes indefinitely. Most herbal remedies accomplish this by boosting a fish’s immune system and thickening the slime coat to withstand symptoms. It is thought if a fish can “live with” a pathogen long enough, it’s immune system will eventually acquire immunity or resistance. Whether the immunity/resistance is permanent or only temporary is a matter of debate. Also, these “immune” fish are oftentimes still asymptomatic carriers, capable of transmitting disease to non-immune fish.

Employing this strategy sometimes works, sometimes not; or sometimes it works for a while and then stops (and the fish dies.) It’s largely dependent upon the overall health of the fish (and the tank in general) as well as the severity of the disease being “managed.” Utilizing a UV sterilizer, diatom filter, ozone, oxydator or some other tool to dilute the number of free swimmers in the water column helps as well. Examples of herbal remedies commonly available include:
  • For parasites/worms: Herbtana, Fritz Aquatics Parashield, Kick-Ich
  • For bacterial diseases: Artemiss, MelaFix, PimaFix
  • Dips & baths: Seachem ParaGuard, Ruby Reef Hydroplex, Blue Life Instant Quarantine
ProsMany of the above products are considered reef safe. Vitamins & Herbal Remedies can improve the overall health of your fish, and sometimes (but not always) will buy you time until a proper treatment (using medication) can be done.

Cons/Side EffectsMay lure a hobbyist into a false sense of security, which can delay more proven/reliable treatment options.
 
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Humblefish

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...what about Allicin (the thing in garlic) ?
Looking into that now...

@Jessican found these articles to review:





 

ctopherl

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Vitamins & Herbal Remedies

What It Treats
Used to boost a fish’s immune system, supplement dietary deficiencies, promote healing and improve overall health.

How To TreatThe following are examples of vitamin supplements in which fish food can be soaked: Selcon, Zoecon, Vita-chem, Seachem Vitality, Brightwell Aquatics Vitamarin-M & AminOmega, Aquaforest Fish V.

DIY options include: Vitamins A, C, E; folic acid; amino acids; Omega 3 & 6 fish oil; Krill oil. Since all of these are “reef safe” substances, you can just saturate food with them or use Seachem Focus to bind them to the food. Also, probiotics are very important for your fish’s digestive system. Probiotic Marine Formula and LRS Foods are two options for providing probiotics.

I once saw a forum thread (with pictures) of a Purple Tang with a bad case of HLLE, where the condition was completely reversed by using Selcon & Zoecon on alternating days; in addition to feeding nori. The value of feeding nori cannot be overstated, as it contains high levels of iodine and fiber. In addition, the use of vitamins and nori is key to alleviating symptoms of viruses in fish, such as Lymphocystis. All of the above will aid in boosting your fishes’ immune systems. Soaking food in garlic extract may or may not be useful, except that it does seem to stimulate appetite in new fish. (Also read: Possible cure for Viruses like Lympho)

Beta-glucan: This an immunostimulant recommended by our very own @Big G (and backed up by scientific research.) The below information has been posted with his permission:

The “pea trick” is something I want to briefly touch upon. A fish with constipation may look similar to one with a swim bladder disorder.
:eek:
The latter is difficult to treat, so always try the “pea trick” before considering a venting procedure. Just feed 1 or 2 peeled boiled green peas (same kind you & I eat) for a few days. It is thought that the fiber contained in the peas help to “push things out.”
;)


There are a slew of herbal remedies on the market and some hobbyists believe that these will “cure” their fish or tank of some disease. Although they are rarely capable of 100% eradication, these remedies may help manage the symptoms of a disease – sometimes indefinitely. Most herbal remedies accomplish this by boosting a fish’s immune system and thickening the slime coat to withstand symptoms. It is thought if a fish can “live with” a pathogen long enough, it’s immune system will eventually acquire immunity or resistance. Whether the immunity/resistance is permanent or only temporary is a matter of debate. Also, these “immune” fish are oftentimes still asymptomatic carriers, capable of transmitting disease to non-immune fish.

Employing this strategy sometimes works, sometimes not; or sometimes it works for a while and then stops (and the fish dies.) It’s largely dependent upon the overall health of the fish (and the tank in general) as well as the severity of the disease being “managed.” Utilizing a UV sterilizer, diatom filter, ozone, oxydator or some other tool to dilute the number of free swimmers in the water column helps as well. Examples of herbal remedies commonly available include:
  • For parasites/worms: Herbtana, Fritz Aquatics Parashield, Kick-Ich
  • For bacterial diseases: Artemiss, MelaFix, PimaFix
  • Dips & baths: Seachem ParaGuard, Ruby Reef Hydroplex, Blue Life Instant Quarantine
ProsMany of the above products are considered reef safe. Vitamins & Herbal Remedies can improve the overall health of your fish, and sometimes (but not always) will buy you time until a proper treatment (using medication) can be done.

Cons/Side EffectsMay lure a hobbyist into a false sense of security, which can delay more proven/reliable treatment options.
So if you had to pick 1-2 general ones, what options “cover the bases” best? I don’t want to have a line of supplement’s longer than my grandpa’s but if there are one or two main ones (80/20 rule) I’d love to get these and start adding to food. It seems like selcon may be up there.

Is it more effective to add to dry food or frozen food (thawed, of course)?

Is once/day dosing recommended, or more often? Or every time the fish are fed?
 

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Follow up question regarding frozen food: I have made my own frozen food mix and added some supplements (AminoMego & Vita-chem) to the mix, then re-frozen it all.
Will this still retain the benefits, or will freezing it destroy most of the benefits?
 

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Should be fine. The only effect of freezing that I know of, is on HGH, which is branch chain amino acids. The fast thawing breaks the chain bonds, and makes the amino acid more bioavalible for coral. If you can dig up the "Blu coral" or "papone" method, it is mentioned there. The stuff you are buying in a bottle is not going to be HGH (Human steroids) I add amino acids and vitamins to my good that is refeozen as well.
 
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